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Crom said:
Psyberius said:
tres said:
Kaizar said:
tres said:
Is Obama the worst president ever as question by the op with a lot of fox drivel statements.

This statement is the answer to all the b.s. this president had to endure from day 1

(Republican)Toomey “In the end it didn’t pass because we’re so politicized. There were some on my side who did not want to be seen helping the president do something he wanted to get done, just because the president wanted to do it,”

There is no more statement that is as indicative of the state of the rapid toxic state of the congressional right.

Obamas problem is hes too freakin nice if that makes him the worst he is


My thoughts exactly.

And I'm glad I'm the only person who notice the Obama is too nice, always trying to give a chance to everybody.

But I think when he came into office that he didn't believe that politician where really that bias & political, but after 2 to 4 years in office he has finally realize that politicians don't care Bout the people and that they only really care about Politics. Better late then never that Obama learns what kind of people all other democrats & republicans & independents really are.

i joke and say i which his name was jerome more than barry.  after the first 2 he should said the hell with them.  i mean come on the republican senate leader said our biggest goal is to make you a one term president.  that doesnt sound like a party that would ever be your friend.  they really dont give a damn about the people of america.  theres only one group that would get stuff done and thats the progressive caucus unfortunately the republican block and corporate shills of the democrap party dont want stuff to happen

its amazing how people in country hate progress


Obama should dissolve congress and then he'll be able to get some work done without it being stopped by reps on everything.

IE Obama votes to save peoples lives caught in a freak vaccum by providing them air.  Republican congress: tables the idea for four years until it can be studied by a republican president.←this is basically what's being done.


What an idiotic statement.  You want to go back to having Kings?  (No wonder our country's future is hopeless when idiots like you actually vote.)  Do the rest of the country a favor.....don't vote if you don't have a clue about politics.)

 

Obama had the majority in House and the Senate for his 1st 2 years and he did nothing.

Obama now has the Senate and the Republicans have the House.

You are whining about Congress blocking everything when his own party is still in charge of half of Congress.

 

You are a brainless drone that parrots White House talking points.  "Everything would be fixed if Congress would stop blocking things"  Wahhhhh Wahhhh!

 

Alright genius.  Name something that Congress blocked that would have helped turn things around?  Cap and Trade?  (Good thing they blocked Cap and Trade because it would have raised energy prices in bad economic times.

 

Like I said.....name one thing that Congress has blocked that would have turned things around.  Prove that you are not a mindless parrot.

 

Quit treating politics like sports teams and sticking to your "team" no matter what.  The blame game gets old especially coming from a supposed leader like Obama.  True leaders don't point fingers and blame.  They lead and take responsibility.  Obama is not a true leader.


No.

The congress are kings of America.

We want members of congress who don't go by majority whip.

Basically we want the opposite of a king.

We want to get rid of the whips.



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Crom said:


What an idiotic statement.  You want to go back to having Kings?  (No wonder our country's future is hopeless when idiots like you actually vote.)  Do the rest of the country a favor.....don't vote if you don't have a clue about politics.)

 

Obama had the majority in House and the Senate for his 1st 2 years and he did nothing.

Obama now has the Senate and the Republicans have the House.

You are whining about Congress blocking everything when his own party is still in charge of half of Congress.

 

You are a brainless drone that parrots White House talking points.  "Everything would be fixed if Congress would stop blocking things"  Wahhhhh Wahhhh!

 

Alright genius.  Name something that Congress blocked that would have helped turn things around?  Cap and Trade?  (Good thing they blocked Cap and Trade because it would have raised energy prices in bad economic times.

 

Like I said.....name one thing that Congress has blocked that would have turned things around.  Prove that you are not a mindless parrot.

 

Quit treating politics like sports teams and sticking to your "team" no matter what.  The blame game gets old especially coming from a supposed leader like Obama.  True leaders don't point fingers and blame.  They lead and take responsibility.  Obama is not a true leader.

Excuse me?  Take your pro-rep crap and push it on someone who believes it.

What the rep's have done to some of Obama's attempts at cleaning up the former sewer called the USA were just short of criminal.   The absolute WORST is them coming back and pointing fingers at Obama's inability to get things done...especailly during the election.

Just so you know, i'm not rep or dem.  I am however a concerned citizen who's sat back and watched some of the dirtiest most underhanded tactics at trying to make the president look bad to Joe America who doesn't look any deeper than a rep fed typeline on cnn.com.

During some of the worst economic times the US has EVER seen, the rep fed congress did NOTHING to help America.  They sat there, whined because a present with half a brain was elected(you want your mindless parot, George Bush was your man) and then had the GALL to say that Obama wasn't getting anything done.

Lastly...take your insults/inflamitory comments and use them on your wife or something.  I don't believe it belongs here.



Please. Nixon was 100x worse. I don't see how anyone can argue against that.

Obama isn't great, but he isn't bad either. People tend to use him as a scapegoat.



steelabhold said:

Please. Nixon was 100x worse. I don't see how anyone can argue against that.

Obama isn't great, but he isn't bad either. People tend to use him as a scapegoat.


Well, Nixon's first name was Dick, LOL.

And Blacks & Jews will always be used as a scapegoat by sadistic white people. Let alone black people with 100% Jewish names like Barack & Weinstein & Einstein & you get the idea, being used as a scapegoat.



spurgeonryan said:
  1. Obama gave you a proper healthcare system
  2. Put us in massive debt (In order to fix the problems by Bush)
  3. Failed to fix any mistakes that The Bush brought upon us What's Oil independance, and better health to you?
  4. Made the poor, poorer. Did He? I thought he made the rich poorer, and the middle class, slightly better
  5. Taken away some of our God given rights, such as: Large Sodas in New york. Very American way of thinking, I think this was an amazing thing he did, this protects individuals from abuse by corporations (High profits, lets make it dirt cheap! Let the consumers have diabetes)
  6. Failed with gun laws - At least he tried
  7. Failed to get us out of any war started 10 years ago or more But he got Osama, and made USA Oil Independant because of it
  8. He Destroyed the Gulf of Mexico, and now we will probably go to War with Mexico before North Korea ever gets real balls to. What? I thought BP destroyed the gulf.
  9. Legalized Marijuana, so that now all kids can have a starter drug in certain states. What's wrong with Marijuana? It was banned because of a lobbyist who literally said "Marijuana makes white women have sex with black men."
  10. Made our country look like it was run by Kindergarteners to the rest of ther world.From Canada....he made you guys look a lot better. Final you guys have healthcare, and are attempting to control gun violence and obesity.
  11. Destroyed our Credit rating I don't know if this was Obama, there were Americans with 20+ years of mortgages, with no way of paying them, and the market collapse kinda did that.

I cannot imagine any president ever being able to top that. Even The Bush was not that bad. Despite being a rather Stinky President as well.  At least he was fun to make fun of.

You know what?

Americans clearly think differently then Canadians. I've seen you, and other Americans complain about laws designed to improve human health and safetly because "It infringes on your freedom." You know what? You're not free when you live in a capitalist society where corporate CEO's have little to no responsibility for the health and safety of their customers. Plus the government also has to be responsible for human safety and health.

Large Soda Ban - Great Idea! Someone needs to realize that selling drinks larger then the human stomach is an infringement on your right to health

55MPG Car average by 2016 - Another great idea! Again, trucks and SUV's return more profit then cars do, but they have a terrible consequence on the environment. This is a much better way to help reduce emissions then by a straight gas tax.

Obama also passed laws which helped Fraud Enforcement and Recovery, Cash for Clunkers extension (which really helps with global warming), various bills to help Vetarans and the Unemployed financially, Tax Credits for Small Companies and other tax credits for the middle class, introduced free trade with South Korea, Columbia, and other countries, and passed laws which keep food prices down (Food Safety and Modernization Act).

Obama was your best president since....Clinton, Clinton was good right? I'm not too familiar with older American Politics.



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Michael-5 said:
spurgeonryan said:
  1. Obama gave you a proper healthcare system
  2. Put us in massive debt (In order to fix the problems by Bush)
  3. Failed to fix any mistakes that The Bush brought upon us What's Oil independance, and better health to you?
  4. Made the poor, poorer. Did He? I thought he made the rich poorer, and the middle class, slightly better
  5. Taken away some of our God given rights, such as: Large Sodas in New york. Very American way of thinking, I think this was an amazing thing he did, this protects individuals from abuse by corporations (High profits, lets make it dirt cheap! Let the consumers have diabetes)
  6. Failed with gun laws - At least he tried
  7. Failed to get us out of any war started 10 years ago or more But he got Osama, and made USA Oil Independant because of it
  8. He Destroyed the Gulf of Mexico, and now we will probably go to War with Mexico before North Korea ever gets real balls to. What? I thought BP destroyed the gulf.
  9. Legalized Marijuana, so that now all kids can have a starter drug in certain states. What's wrong with Marijuana? It was banned because of a lobbyist who literally said "Marijuana makes white women have sex with black men."
  10. Made our country look like it was run by Kindergarteners to the rest of ther world.From Canada....he made you guys look a lot better. Final you guys have healthcare, and are attempting to control gun violence and obesity.
  11. Destroyed our Credit rating I don't know if this was Obama, there were Americans with 20+ years of mortgages, with no way of paying them, and the market collapse kinda did that.

I cannot imagine any president ever being able to top that. Even The Bush was not that bad. Despite being a rather Stinky President as well.  At least he was fun to make fun of.

You know what?

Americans clearly think differently then Canadians. I've seen you, and other Americans complain about laws designed to improve human health and safetly because "It infringes on your freedom." You know what? You're not free when you live in a capitalist society where corporate CEO's have little to no responsibility for the health and safety of their customers. Plus the government also has to be responsible for human safety and health.

Large Soda Ban - Great Idea! Someone needs to realize that selling drinks larger then the human stomach is an infringement on your right to health

55MPG Car average by 2016 - Another great idea! Again, trucks and SUV's return more profit then cars do, but they have a terrible consequence on the environment. This is a much better way to help reduce emissions then by a straight gas tax.

Obama also passed laws which helped Fraud Enforcement and Recovery, Cash for Clunkers extension (which really helps with global warming), various bills to help Vetarans and the Unemployed financially, Tax Credits for Small Companies and other tax credits for the middle class, introduced free trade with South Korea, Columbia, and other countries, and passed laws which keep food prices down (Food Safety and Modernization Act).

Obama was your best president since....Clinton, Clinton was good right? I'm not too familiar with older American Politics.


Bill Clinton regulated the stock market and really turn the job market & economy around for the better. That's some of the reasons why he got re-elected so easily.

Bill Clinton also got rid of generational welfare if you exclude Alaska, which also saved a lot of tax dollars down the road.

No one can blame Bill Clinton and the housing market on the recession that happen in the end of 2008, because the George Bush Housing crash happened in June or July 2007 which was like 18 months before George W. Bush de-regulation of the stock market caused the Global Recession in Q4 2K8.

What cause the housing market crash in 2007 was changes that happen to the housing market during Bush's first and/or second term in the 21st century.



That's not the feeling we have outside USA... USA are more respected than some years ago.



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AstroMaSSi said:

That's not the feeling we have outside USA... USA are more respected than some years ago.


I often see this said, But how is Obama any different than Bush? Obama freely violates other countries rights in ways that bush never was allowed too by the international populace. Although in africa and the middle east it seems like Obama is fastly losing his popularism among the people. Really Bush and Obama are so alike its not even funny. It really is a one party system over here. Any one who respects Obama for what he has done, also needs to respect Bush for what he did. They are the same actions just made by different people associated with a different political group.



thranx said:
AstroMaSSi said:

That's not the feeling we have outside USA... USA are more respected than some years ago.


I often see this said, But how is Obama any different than Bush? Obama freely violates other countries rights in ways that bush never was allowed too by the international populace. Although in africa and the middle east it seems like Obama is fastly losing his popularism among the people. Really Bush and Obama are so alike its not even funny. It really is a one party system over here. Any one who respects Obama for what he has done, also needs to respect Bush for what he did. They are the same actions just made by different people associated with a different political group.


I don't know, living in Europe we have this feeling but we're far... probably we're wrong. But sure, sometimes we can't see a real difference between dem and rep.



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Crom said:

What an idiotic statement.  You want to go back to having Kings?  (No wonder our country's future is hopeless when idiots like you actually vote.)  Do the rest of the country a favor.....don't vote if you don't have a clue about politics.)

Obama had the majority in House and the Senate for his 1st 2 years and he did nothing.

Obama now has the Senate and the Republicans have the House.

You are whining about Congress blocking everything when his own party is still in charge of half of Congress.

You are a brainless drone that parrots White House talking points.  "Everything would be fixed if Congress would stop blocking things"  Wahhhhh Wahhhh!

Alright genius.  Name something that Congress blocked that would have helped turn things around?  Cap and Trade?  (Good thing they blocked Cap and Trade because it would have raised energy prices in bad economic times.

Like I said.....name one thing that Congress has blocked that would have turned things around.  Prove that you are not a mindless parrot.

Quit treating politics like sports teams and sticking to your "team" no matter what.  The blame game gets old especially coming from a supposed leader like Obama.  True leaders don't point fingers and blame.  They lead and take responsibility.  Obama is not a true leader.

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i find it odd that the "christian" country that is america whine about kings when every sunday you are worshiping the King of kings.  heaven is a kingdom not a democracy.  

next:  what majority.. they had  the house for 2 years.   they NEVER had the senate.  simple majorities used to work but since he bacame president now every vote requires 60 votes.   when did they ever have 60 senators.  the answer is never.  joe lieberman may have caucus with the dems but he was more judas than judas was to Jesus. on top of that al franken was tied up for over a half year and ted kennedy would pass soon afterwards.

everything that has gone wrong in this country over the last to years is because the anti-americans that we call the republican party would rather destroy the country than see  him suceed.  upon his election they became rabid infested and began plotting not put up ideas for good policy but as mitch ronald mcdonald said it best "Our #1 goal is to make him a one term president"  not boosting the economy, not jobs, not reducing the pseudo deficit, but to get rid  of him like he was the black sheep.  

how do you explain the constant idiocy where republicans put up their crap ideas as soon as barry says he likes the idea it became toxic.  how do you explain mitch mcCONville filibustering his own bill.  how do you explain the republicans forcing the postal service to fund years of insurance, forcing them to service areas where the other companies dont go because they arent profitable then turning around blocking efforts the  postal service want to try to fix the clusterphuck mess that the congressional republiCONs made.

so back to the ?  is he the worst. no congress is the worst in particular those on the right side of the aisle and even those in the left that lean right.

if you are not progressive your regressive as seen in the country.  other countries are building while we are letting our buildings collapse.  other countries are learning while we're defunding the eductional system.  go amerka.  at least we have a cool chant u-s-a u-s-a