So because this is the first console your ever felt is doomed makes your points more valid?

Hello to everyone. I have just made my personal account on this site, although I have been browsing it for 3 years now. It is true I am a fan of Nintendo but at the same time I am sensible. Wii U is out for some months only, And most people are extremely critical. How is possible to be that negative for a brand new game-console? I consider myself a real gamer. I own most consoles and I really enjoy videogames. How comes a REAL gamer throws so much critish for a machine that it has not shown almost anything yet? I am sorry to see that a big number of users are constantly arguing about the same subjects, such as its power and the its bad sales.

According to Wikipedia, Wii U shas sold 3.06 million as of December 31, 2012. A good enough number considering the worldwide economical situation. I am not saying Wii U launch was cool because it was not. But the system itself is really enjoyable. Though, it misses some games. With the right games and fine marketing, I am sure it will become a success. Wii used to get a great deal of hatred. But it is the winner of the last generation.

Not to mention how bad was the PS3 whole marketing and sales until 2011. So, let's give time to WiiU, so it will / may prove us its TRUE potention.

All in all, always remember you are a gamer. Video-games are a hobby. No need for so much hate and conflict. Start enjoying and stop talking shit. I am filled up with all the Wii U and Vita doom threads. Get a life or better games.

Yes, but that was last generation. Can you honestly assert that the Wii hasn't grown Nintendo's base at all? That's as ridiculous as suggesting Nintendo's base support is 70% of Wii sales. Nintendo's base support fell to about 15 million with GC, I reckon. But I'm predicting that Wii has probably built up that base by about 10 million.

Could it be ? Are you by any chance the Navy seal top sniper and master of Gorilla warfare  ?

i have absolutely no clue how much wii u will sell but i agree with you that many won't "leave" microsoft or sony because of their accounts. i think many underestimate that and some even understand it wrong (those who say people don't care that much about trophies or achievements).

it's about millions of people who don't want to lose their "friends" because those are the guys they played for years with. if you have some people you play regularly with in games like cod, tekken, halo, gran turismo or even uno and talked to them hundreds or thousands of hours you don't just say "who cares, i change console and will play with other people then" because it takes time to find the right people to play regularly with and you won't change that so easy as you did before we had those accounts and stuff. so, at least for people who play a lot online it's not that easy just to change.

that counts obviously only for those who only buy one console per gen and not those who buy minimum two consoles but this will be also a reason why nextbox and ps4 have already some million easy sales in my opinion

I kind of agree, but instead of calling it "not too bad for a Nintendo system", I would call it: "what is normal for a Nintendo system".

My take on the WiiU is that Nintendo took a bet with the touch screen that by now has not taken off, and I personally don't see it taking off at all.

I feel that Nintendo needs to realize the position they have in gaming. The Wii got very big because of how the WiiMote expanded their userbase to a fleeting demographic. I feel the big mistake from Nintendo this gen was making this first console that made losses. This is why if Nintendo doesn't sell well they could face touble. How big the troubles? No one can tell for sure. In previous generations Nintendo has not sold the insane amount of consoles that Sony did, but that never stopped them by making profitable consoles, this is not the case with the WiiU.

What do I think Nintendo should have done? Either one of the two things:

1) Improve the WiiMote and take it to the next level instead of approaching gaming with the gamepad

2) Create another console that would have made pofit out of the gate and not care whether they would be the console to sell the most in the generation. They should have waited until they could provide another form of gaming that could attract casuals while making a machine that doesn't burn the money they've made

People are talking about waiting for the new WiiFit, WiiSports.... if those games are made to be played with the WiiMote and they are successful (which I doubt) it would be the undisputed truth that they should have stuck with the WiiMode and that the loss for the gamepad was unnecessary. If those games are meant to be played with the gamepad, I doubt they will sell.

If the Wii U is well done...then the Vita should be burnt isn't it?  Honestly, the system has only been out for 4 months and all this doom and gloom has not stopped since it's release.  Nintendo didn't make it easy on themselves having such a drought on the system (~2-3 months of no significant game release will really shoot your sales down).  Once the games start coming out the Wii U should start seeing decent sales. It will be interesting to see what excuse people will come up with when the PS4/720 sells less or equal to what the Wii U is selling at the moment!!!

I don't think the PS4/720 will have droughts because they will have all the third party community behind those platforms and it will be easy to port PC software, so PS4/720 having a drought would be like the PC having a drought. 

It's preposterous to judge Wii U before its second christmas with Mario.

You mean another Christmas with another Mario, right? :)