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Dr.Grass on 20 March 2013
RolStoppable said:
Dr.Grass said:
the_dengle said:
Dr.Grass said:

Dota2 is the best game ever made.

lololololol

Why are you laughing? PLEASE. Tell me.

Because you said something funny and I don't even know what Dota 2 is exactly.

 

I'll get a Wii U for Mario (Galaxy HD collections please!), Metroid and Zelda too. Of course.

Don't mean to offend.



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TruckOSaurus on 20 March 2013

I only played one game of DOTA 2 and I couldn't really see how it differed from LoL (haven't played that much LoL either). Three paths, towers, heroes trying to kill each other, land the last hit to gain gold, buy items, level up. They're basically the same game with different heroes.



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Dr.Grass on 20 March 2013
antunesaa said:
Dr.Grass said:
 


I don't know what to say to you Seth. I really respect you (as far as online personalities go), but you're wrong here.

Just plain wrong.

I can't explain why. I can just give you a glimpse of what dota is by referencing some of the people who play it.

1. My friend who's master architect of the biggest online purchasing company in my country has clocked over 1200 hours.

2. My friend who's a game developer has clocked over 1100 hours. He's releasing a game at the end of the year and will make millions. Bet on it.

3. His whole dev studio are all into it.

4. Me. I didn't like it at first. But then I watched him play whilst he expertly gave me the lowdown on what he was doing. SO confusing at first, but BY FAR the deepest, most balanced game I ever witnessed.

I had biases too. I refused to accept it as being something possibly awesome. I was wrong.


So what? Reminds me of a friend many years ago (who by the way was at Garching at the time - if you're going to CERN you know what I'm talking about) talking about one of his acquaintances who, upon being questioned about the people attending a certain meeting, couldn't find a humbler response than saying that "We were at least 5 geniuses..."

Anyways, the fact that a game is capable of drawing apparently rational people for hundreds of hours does not carry a lot of information about the game itself, although it does convey information about those people. IMHO.

Oh man. Here we go. Jeez. Guess I was ignorant to think I'd get through this thread without one of those responses popping up. WHY can't you read my post properly and try and understand a disclaimer when you see it!?

What do you want to say about my #1 friend there? That he's already earning more than you'll ever do? That he's literally GOD in programming? I MADE A DISCLAMER:

I can't explain why. I can just give you a glimpse of what dota is by referencing some of the people who play it.

It's even pretty moot.

"We were at least 5 geniuses..."

Yeah, go ahead and play that card. I don't give a rat's ass ok.(probably you don't even know what I'm getting at now)

You have no arguments here. You're not saying or contributing anything.

 

Want to see what it's like when unnecessary ass-ish comments are made? Well here you go:

"if you're going to CERN you know what I'm talking about"

I'm at CERN now. Can't you read dates?

Not fun is it. And no, I've never heard of that German place.

FYI, I logged into VGChartz from the CERN library today. Gives everything I say more weight than you. Oh, and it's my thread.

I don't like people being assholes on purpose.

 

EDIT: Especially if they can't even back it up with some intellectual fervor.

EDIT2: You totally ruined my mood. Here I was, relaxing in the Alps, drinking french wine and eating the finest European chocolate - having fun on VGHartz. And then BAM, derailed by idiocy.

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Trunkin on 20 March 2013
osed125 said:
Trunkin said:
osed125 said:

A true Dota 2 player can very easily kill you if you run away. Honestly some times the only way to run away from a battle is to teleport....or let your whole team die while you escape.

That's what I want to hear! LoL players are utterly without honor. The wanton cowardice and shameless ganking displayed in even high ranking matches are half of the reason I don't play the game. I wouldn't be able to contain my rage.

The other half is the fact that I don't think it would be all that fun in 800x600 with low graphics and sub 30fps... It is fun to watch, though!

Ganking is still a "problem" in normal Dota 2 gameplays, but with full coordination and some stuff called wards (which let you see where other players are) you can easily predict a ganking and move to safety before it happens.

I haven't played Lol yet so I honestly don't know the main differences between each one, but from what I heard, Dota 2 is less cheap and it's more "hardcore" (probably the reason why some prefer Lol over Dota). 

I've seen a heck of a lot of LoL matches, but I dunno if I've ever even seen DOTA in action once. People do tell me that it's "more difficult" than LoL, whatever that means. LoL is immensely popular, though, so maybe that's why.



wfz on 20 March 2013
TruckOSaurus said:
I only played one game of DOTA 2 and I couldn't really see how it differed from LoL (haven't played that much LoL either). Three paths, towers, heroes trying to kill each other, land the last hit to gain gold, buy items, level up. They're basically the same game with different heroes.


That's like saying Call of Duty and Halo are the same game. You're speaking from the point of view of someone who doesn't understand the games, which is fine.

 



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TruckOSaurus on 20 March 2013
wfz said:
TruckOSaurus said:
I only played one game of DOTA 2 and I couldn't really see how it differed from LoL (haven't played that much LoL either). Three paths, towers, heroes trying to kill each other, land the last hit to gain gold, buy items, level up. They're basically the same game with different heroes.


That's like saying Call of Duty and Halo are the same game. You're speaking from the point of view of someone who doesn't understand the games, which is fine.

 

Am I wrong in thinking the map is basically the same though? (Serious question)



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Shinobi-san on 20 March 2013
TruckOSaurus said:
wfz said:
TruckOSaurus said:
I only played one game of DOTA 2 and I couldn't really see how it differed from LoL (haven't played that much LoL either). Three paths, towers, heroes trying to kill each other, land the last hit to gain gold, buy items, level up. They're basically the same game with different heroes.


That's like saying Call of Duty and Halo are the same game. You're speaking from the point of view of someone who doesn't understand the games, which is fine.

 

Am I wrong in thinking the map is basically the same though? (Serious question)

You're kinda right truck. LoL was entirely based on the original Warcraft 3 mod called DOTA. One of the founders of DOTA branched off and made League of Legends. There are some major differences at the moment but the core gameplay mechanics are the same.

Also DOTA 2 is just DOTA but made with a new graphics engine and some other changes, however the gameplay has for the most part stayed completly intact.



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theprof00 on 20 March 2013
Dr.Grass said:
antunesaa said:
Dr.Grass said:
 


I don't know what to say to you Seth. I really respect you (as far as online personalities go), but you're wrong here.

Just plain wrong.

I can't explain why. I can just give you a glimpse of what dota is by referencing some of the people who play it.

1. My friend who's master architect of the biggest online purchasing company in my country has clocked over 1200 hours.

2. My friend who's a game developer has clocked over 1100 hours. He's releasing a game at the end of the year and will make millions. Bet on it.

3. His whole dev studio are all into it.

4. Me. I didn't like it at first. But then I watched him play whilst he expertly gave me the lowdown on what he was doing. SO confusing at first, but BY FAR the deepest, most balanced game I ever witnessed.

I had biases too. I refused to accept it as being something possibly awesome. I was wrong.


So what? Reminds me of a friend many years ago (who by the way was at Garching at the time - if you're going to CERN you know what I'm talking about) talking about one of his acquaintances who, upon being questioned about the people attending a certain meeting, couldn't find a humbler response than saying that "We were at least 5 geniuses..."

Anyways, the fact that a game is capable of drawing apparently rational people for hundreds of hours does not carry a lot of information about the game itself, although it does convey information about those people. IMHO.

Oh man. Here we go. Jeez. Guess I was ignorant to think I'd get through this thread without one of those responses popping up. WHY can't you read my post properly and try and understand a disclaimer when you see it!?

What do you want to say about my #1 friend there? That he's already earning more than you'll ever do? That he's literally GOD in programming? I MADE A DISCLAMER:

I can't explain why. I can just give you a glimpse of what dota is by referencing some of the people who play it.

It's even pretty moot.

"We were at least 5 geniuses..."

Yeah, go ahead and play that card. I don't give a rat's ass ok.(probably you don't even know what I'm getting at now)

You have no arguments here. You're not saying or contributing anything.

 

Want to see what it's like when unnecessary ass-ish comments are made? Well here you go:

"if you're going to CERN you know what I'm talking about"

I'm at CERN now. Can't you read dates?

Not fun is it. And no, I've never heard of that German place.

FYI, I logged into VGChartz from the CERN library today. Gives everything I say more weight than you. Oh, and it's my thread.

I don't like people being assholes on purpose.

 

EDIT: Especially if they can't even back it up with some intellectual fervor.

EDIT2: You totally ruined my mood. Here I was, relaxing in the Alps, drinking french wine and eating the finest European chocolate - having fun on VGHartz. And then BAM, derailed by idiocy.


Lol "gives everything more weight" haha I believe it!

The alps don't play mothafuckasn



Soundwave on 20 March 2013

If Steambox is a 'Linux box' basically doesn't that mean you could load it up with emulators?

For me, if you can do that, Steambox > PS4/720, it'll simply get way more playtime for me with all the retro gaming + new game releases.



wfz on 20 March 2013
TruckOSaurus said:
wfz said:
TruckOSaurus said:
I only played one game of DOTA 2 and I couldn't really see how it differed from LoL (haven't played that much LoL either). Three paths, towers, heroes trying to kill each other, land the last hit to gain gold, buy items, level up. They're basically the same game with different heroes.


That's like saying Call of Duty and Halo are the same game. You're speaking from the point of view of someone who doesn't understand the games, which is fine.

 

Am I wrong in thinking the map is basically the same though? (Serious question)


The map similarities are definitely there. 3 lanes, netural creep camps, and there is even a river that runs diagonally through the stage. In that respect, they're very similar. The gameplay within those maps (due to stage design, character ability design, physics, how sight works, and the complete layout of neutral creep camps) is extremely different, however.