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D-Joe said:
VGKing said:
D-Joe said:
VGKing said:
D-Joe said:
VGKing said:
D-Joe said:
VGKing said:
There's no reason to block playing games from the disc itself. Mandatory installations aren't that bad if you only have to install a couple gigabytes, but forcing people to install the whole game onto their hard drive is ridiculous. I'm all for reducing load times, but I"m also for saving space and having not having to constantly worry that the next game I buy will fill up my hard drive.

I'm not sure it's problem or not since it said 720 can play the game few seconds after started the installtion

That means even you deleted the game,you can still play it again very quick

Doesn't matter how fast you can get into the game. The constant management of your games collection is going to be really annoying for people with smaller HDDs.

If they use this tech,why would they sell a small(let's say<320GB HDD) SDK at first?

To make the console affordable.

A 500GB or even 750GB SKU can still sold it affordable,not even $10 price difference between 320GB and 500GB right now,i bet 500GB HDD price will even lower at late this year

Every penny adds up. Multiply those $10 by 10 million = $100 million added costs purely on the HDD.

Pretty low for MS

Plus it's not even $10,and pricing will keep dropping,i bet it won't costs 100 million even when they shipped 15 million consoles.

Believe it or not, even Microsoft likes saving money. If they feel they can get away with shipping with a low capacity HDD, they will. But I don't think they will since digital will be a huge part of their nextBox. I say 500GB will be the lowest they should go.



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Zappykins said:
D-Joe said:
 

Well yeah "always on" means low power mode,and "always connected"=always maintain a network connection even in stand by mode,what is it for?no waiting for the console to restart or install updates.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=50798253#post50798253

But they never said users required online to play games,even 

Right!

I guess they do not realize the Wii can do this.  Yes, the 'little console that could from 2006.' You can connect your Wii with the internet and have it go to low power mode to download news updates and stuff so they are ready when to turn it on. It even shows you with an amber light vs a little red light when you turn it off.

I'm hoping the licensing will be like the 360 - you can transfer you license over, or some digital games that you buy require you to log in to play (if you haven't transferred your license.) 

I just hope they have a big nice GPU.  Especially since it’s figuratively 2 Generations (8 years) since they upgraded their hardware.  If it is really half the power of it's competitor I will be disappointed.  (It's never a good idea to disappoint me!)

 


even the 360 currently does this. I think what they are talking about is slightly different though. More automated, no need to tell it to update certain games, it just does it with out you knowing. It will also give kinect the ability to use your voice to turn on your console too.  Thats what I took from it.



kinect required -- if kinect is bundled in the hardware (per rumors) i don't see the issue.


no optical disc play -- not sure what the repercussions are but it could be great or terrible depending on the details. there was that thread a few weeks back about watermarking discs to transfer the license from a disc to an account and visa verse. that, imo, sounds like an amazing way to get the benefits of digital delivery without any of the drawbacks.


always online-- no biggie for me personally, i'm always online. seems like it would severely limit their potential market however.



slowmo said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
slowmo said:
Yawn, haven't you guys got some riveting PS4 threads to post in rather than coming in here to annoy Microsoft fans based on unsubstantiated rumour. ANYONE could fake those screenshots.


Pretty much ALL VGleaks articles had threads in this forum. Better question is why not take your yawning outside of a thread that you don't like? VGLeaks gets a lot of credit because they have been on the money about almost all the info they have talked about. Heck they are not alone, even EDGE and other sources have said the same stuff that's in the OP before.

I don't mind the actual thread at all, had you bothered to read my post you would have understood this.  My point is there is a lot of people making assumptions based on some screenshots and posted their assumption as fact.  Had you been a more reasonable poster then you might have seen why this is tiresome to hear the same posters making the same assumptions in every speculative thread and using it to bash Microsoft. 

Enjoy your break.

 

But this is a rumor thread tho...why have issues with people speculating? That's the whole point. And this is not even the worst kind of rumor/speculations either in the past week or so. Been reading the next box might have two APUs etc too lol I AM being reasonable here whether you agree or not. It's just the nature of rumor threads. No reason to complain about it, especially since most are being very good in the way they are discussing what this could mean. The only reason why you think people repeat the same opinions is because the same rumor or similar rumors keep coming up from different sources from time to time. VGleaks, Gaf, EDGE are some examples



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Im not so sure this is reflective of final specs.. What if these are just development kits specifications?
I'm just having a hard time believing that ms would go the always connected route. That would be a huge mistake. One I hope that they are a aware of.



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NiKKoM said:
well.. I won't be using my next xbox to watch porn... MS knows...

You'll end up with "enlarge your penis now" adverts on the dashboard.



Zappykins said:

 Overall, this seems like good information that fixes some of the complaints/growing pains about the 360.  I just wish they had scrolled down to ‘Specs.’ Plus, I do not think this is all that recent, as DirectX 11.1 launched with Windows 8, so it might be somting higher or 11.1B.

It will be an ineresting reveal!

 


Not sure, I think 11.1 is the latest we will get, DirectX Blue support will probably come 2014 and not this year. But who knows its possible.

 

As for the Specs you asked. This document gave birth to most of the rumors about Xbox 3 and the Specs.

 

 

1.2 Tflop GPU 12 CUs 

1.6 ghz Jaguar 8 Cores.

32 MB Esram 100gb/s

8gb DDR3 68gb/s

Data Move engines

 

 

Thats what the specs say.

 

 

 



M.U.G.E.N said:
slowmo said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
slowmo said:
Yawn, haven't you guys got some riveting PS4 threads to post in rather than coming in here to annoy Microsoft fans based on unsubstantiated rumour. ANYONE could fake those screenshots.


Pretty much ALL VGleaks articles had threads in this forum. Better question is why not take your yawning outside of a thread that you don't like? VGLeaks gets a lot of credit because they have been on the money about almost all the info they have talked about. Heck they are not alone, even EDGE and other sources have said the same stuff that's in the OP before.

I don't mind the actual thread at all, had you bothered to read my post you would have understood this.  My point is there is a lot of people making assumptions based on some screenshots and posted their assumption as fact.  Had you been a more reasonable poster then you might have seen why this is tiresome to hear the same posters making the same assumptions in every speculative thread and using it to bash Microsoft. 

Enjoy your break.

 

But this is a rumor thread tho...why have issues with people speculating? That's the whole point. And this is not even the worst kind of rumor/speculations either in the past week or so. Been reading the next box might have two APUs etc too lol I AM being reasonable here whether you agree or not. It's just the nature of rumor threads. No reason to complain about it, especially since most are being very good in the way they are discussing what this could mean. The only reason why you think people repeat the same opinions is because the same rumor or similar rumors keep coming up from different sources from time to time. VGleaks, Gaf, EDGE are some examples

 

Speculation is fine though.  Posts such as "Random bullshit rumour #1 confirmed, Nextbox sucks".  I've no problem with reasonable discussion on the topic, but there is a distinct lack of it occuring in most of these threads.  A lot of the early posts were basically bashing the Nextbox and treating this as a confirmation when it is in fact easy to fake this news and the rumours are nothing new, they're just recycled rumours put in a pretty package to try and get more hits.  This is fake, pure and simple.  As mentioned earlier in the thread, there was plenty of rumours about the PS4 that were bullshit too but they get forgotten quickly in every speculation thread about the nextbox as people are constantly trying to spin negatives. 

All I ask is if you must question the impact of these rumours, using words such as IF, COULD, POSSIBLY, MAYBE would be nice instead of posting opinion as fact constantly.

 

P.S - I read the thread again and to be honest there was only 2 people that were annoying before my initial post but they posted multiple times and basically posted a load of crap that wasn't true.  There were others after my post but they fell under the category of obviouis troll accounts.  Anyway, I think I'll leave you to debate away with anyone else you like about the rumours as I said my thoughts on what I thought about the validity of the "leak".



I refuse to believe that they're stupid enough to release such a closed and tied system, developers were already complaining about Live (the Indie ones mostly) and a lot of people don't like always online, kinect or paying for online. Forced subscriptions next?
No, with Steam releasing their Piston box I don't believe for one second that MS would send something like this to compete with that and the PS4.
Let's wait for confirmation, a console reveal is likely only a month or two at the most, away.



I doubt its true, but if it i look forward to the Sony/Nintendo domination.