Forums - Sony Discussion - Nvidia bitterness continues, compares PS4 specs to a 'low-end CPU'

Soundwave said:
He's not lying though.

The PS4 CPU is weak compared to the modern PC CPUs and nothing special in the GPU department either, there are many graphics cards that would rip the PS4 one apart, not to mention in a PC you can have 2 GPUs in a rig if you really feel like it.

The only thing really special about the PS4 is that it has 8GB of the faster GDDR5 RAM, but now that the gauntlet has been thrown down, you're probably start seeing PC GPUs with 4-8GB of GDDR5 soon enough.


You can actualy have 4 GPUs in a rig these days (maybe I saw a 6 mobo also).

Imagine 4 x Titans 24gb ddr5 ram lol. However that is getting close to $4000.



 

 

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superchunk said:
Scoobes said:

I thought they planned to release a desktop equivalent in the 7790?

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/AMD-Radeon-7790-Saturn-GPU,21447.html

Similar tech, but watered down... which is what they do for mobile series chips.

The APU or Fusion technology always has AMDs equivalent mobile tech. Thats how they get the size and power requirements.

So yes, the APU in the PS4 is the graphical technology equivalent of a HD77XX or HD77XX, but it would have the "M" moniker at the end of the label to denote that it is the mobile series variant.

This is why Nvidia is saying its a low/mid end GPU yet we know its based on a HD7XXX chip. Its a HD7XXXM GPU.

PS4's GPU is NOT 77xx equivalent - it's 1152:72:32@800MHz part, so it's between 7850 (1024:64:32@1000MHz) and 7970m (1280:80:32@850MHz) - whether it's desktop or mobile is completely irrelevant.



superchunk said:
Nvidia is right.

The APU has by default a mobile based CPU and GPU and therefore they are low/mid products.

This why I been laughing at all the craziness people have gone on about the 8GB of GDDR5 ram.

MSony are not pushing the limits at the start of this gen like previous. This is also why they are significantly closer to WiiU than their predecessors were to Wii. Wii to WiiU is a larger jump than PS360 to PS4/NXbox.

Now after saying that... its obvious Nvidia is in damage control.


Lol superchunk show me a mobile that can deliver 2teraflops.

The new galaxyis 74gigaflops.

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The Jaguar achitecture competes with the Intel Atom, so CPU wise PS4 is absolutely low-end. GPU wise, not really, as a GTX680 alone costs more than the supposed PS4 price, so it should obviously do better.



Lol the first Nvidia guy made sense. This guy on the other hand, is either doing a poor job of damage control, or doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. You can't get a PC rig with the same specs as the PS4 for the same amount of money. That's the bottom line.



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We all know NextGen(PS4/Nextbox) is already outdated compared to a 2500$ PC
But does it matter?The Titan for 1000$ is surely nice to have but doesn't help anything if the games are "limited" by consoles.
He is just pissed they can't cash out on the console sector this time.

We can be more than happy the PS4 and probably Nextbox are doing what they showed at the presentation and probably even more over the time.We had already a huge jump with that and we will see more.
No one needs his Titan cause hardware already available in 2011 is still able to max out everything on PC.



This guy is probably half true but he's not selling the PC at all. He's actually making it worse.



theprof00 said:
superchunk said:
Nvidia is right.

The APU has by default a mobile based CPU and GPU and therefore they are low/mid products.

This why I been laughing at all the craziness people have gone on about the 8GB of GDDR5 ram.

MSony are not pushing the limits at the start of this gen like previous. This is also why they are significantly closer to WiiU than their predecessors were to Wii. Wii to WiiU is a larger jump than PS360 to PS4/NXbox.

Now after saying that... its obvious Nvidia is in damage control.


Lol superchunk show me a mobile that can deliver 2teraflops.

The new galaxyis 74gigaflops.

I

Mobile as in laptops*, not smartphones ;)

*am I right superchunk?



Why does everyone take this so personally. This is a businessman defending his business decisions that were made for business reasons. i.e - he's credible as nvidia like any other company like money.

His comments are a little exaggerated, for the GPU. To expect GTX680 performance or anywhere near it in a console is a bit much and simply can't be done at a decent price level, or even TDP on the heat/power side of things. The CPU part, he's likely pretty close with his statement there, but CPU isn't as important as GPU by a long way once it's at a certain level.

Point is that he's not "bitter" and saying as such just makes you look like you don't really understand much about comments made by a rep from a business who deals with this stuff.

I'm sure the CEO of McDonald's franchise operations (if such a thing exists) would have similarly derrogatory remarks about the direction Burger King is taking their business, you can be quite sure that they wouldn't be "bitter" or actually lie but you're going to get an opinion that is centric to McDonald's business direction and biased in that direction.

In fact OP, you should be ashamed really for using the word "bitterness", it's really not helpful and gives totally the wrong impression than what is actually being discussed here. You haven't explained why you have used the word and it just riles up hate from the usual suspects.



haha this is hilarious. and extremely childish they are so butthurt they didnt get that contract