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Mnementh on 03 March 2013
thismeintiel said:
hunter_alien said:
z101 said:
AgentZorn said:


Nintendo refused Origin. That's my only guess.


Yes, that is all about it.


Or maybe big games like CoD/ME/AC all bombed on the WiiU and the preorders of NFS are non existent?

I mean we can blame the lack of Origin support as much as we want, but when will we start blaming the atrocious sales of 3rd party games?

This.

It costs money to finish polishing a game that is close to completion, to publish it, and advertise it.  If EA had a strong feeling that they would barely recoup those costs, then they aren't going to release the game.  Nintendo fans always complain about poor 3rd party support, but when they do get ports/multiplats, they don't seem to buy them.  Yet, they start to get pissed when 3rd parties begin to abandon their console because there is no money to be made.  I think Nintendo fans on this site need to have a long talk with their brethren, as the majority of them don't seem to care about 3rd party games. This is only going to hurt Nintendo in the long run.

Though, for some reason, this only applies to their home consoles.  Their handheld gets good 3rd party support and sales.  I guess that's because not only the Nintendo diehards and casuals buy those systems.  I have a 3DS myself.

Yes, sure, consumers are to blame not to buy subpar-games. How bad of Nintendo-fans. And Just Dance was really a first-party-title that Nintendo gave to Ubisoft to publish. No way that a third-party ever adapts to the needs of the customer-base of a console.



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Mnementh on 03 March 2013
hunter_alien said:
Maybe the cost of finishing the game and publishing it would have been to high to justify the release? I mean we are looking at sales that would have probabaly been under 100k LT, and the majority would have come from bargain bin sales.

Maybe EA much rather focused that money on advertising the PC/360/PS3, and by the looks of it, the game will do decent numbers.

Are you kidding me? Epic Mickey did 100K on WiiU. Crysis should surely made more and would sell to a growing base too. And 100K are more enough to pay for a port. Some 10K should be enough for that.



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YukanaSenix on 03 March 2013
chapset said:
wasn't going to sell anyway


Not even CoD is selling on the WiiU
Funny how people think something like Crysis 3 would sell there :D
Its a smart business move - Probably the shipping costs are more expensive than what they would get back from the sold units.



Mnementh on 03 March 2013
BasilZero said:
Mnementh said:

Yes, sure, consumers are to blame not to buy subpar-games. How bad of Nintendo-fans. And Just Dance was really a first-party-title that Nintendo gave to Ubisoft to publish. No way that a third-party ever adapts to the needs of the customer-base of a console.


Either my sarcasm meter is broken or you dont know that Just Dance was a third party title...

LOL, your sarcasm-meter is broken.

I'm tired of people claiming the "Nintendo-dronez never buy teh third-partiez", while this claim is obviously untrue. The 3rd-parties only need to adapt to the audience.



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torok on 03 March 2013
Mnementh said:

Yes, sure, consumers are to blame not to buy subpar-games. How bad of Nintendo-fans. And Just Dance was really a first-party-title that Nintendo gave to Ubisoft to publish. No way that a third-party ever adapts to the needs of the customer-base of a console.


NFS: MW isn't a subpar game and Wii U's version is the only one close to PC graphics. Assassin's Creed 3 and Batman Arkham City aren't subpar games too. We are talking about som of the highest rated and highest selling franchises of the gen.

And porting costs money too. I'm not very confident than 10k would pay for Crysis 3. It's a technically advanced game and probably was very expensive, maybe it needs 1.5~2 millions in sales to break even, so porting it would demand more than 100k in sales to be profitable (less than that and it would be better to put that effort in DLCs that can sell in all plataforms and generate revenue). 



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Cold-Flipper on 03 March 2013

Didn't EA not support Sega and the Dreamcast because Sega refused to give in to EA's needs? EA played a big role in the death of Sega if I remember correctly. Now EA wants to make Nintendo pay too it seems. Too bad it won't work this time...



Darc Requiem on 03 March 2013
think-man said:
Nintendo don't want third party support I guess.....


How did you reach that conclusion? Crytek just said the game isn't on Wii U because of EA. EA has the publishing rights, Crytek doesn't.

@Cold-Flipper

Yeah EA did, which ironically cost them dearly and is still costing the to this day. EAs refusal to support the DC lead to Sega stepping up their sports titles. The 2K series was arguably (IMO was better) than EA sports titles. Hell the NBA Live series never recovered it's been what 3 years since EA release a basketball game? Madden is around because of the exclusive NFL license. That license cost EA a lot more money than it would if it wasn't for the growing success of the NFL2K franchise.



MARCUSDJACKSON on 03 March 2013
Sal.Paradise said:
The unprecedented partnership continues

yea Nintendos love for 3rd party shines with an unrivaled brightness. Sony/MS only wishes they had this kind of relationship with 3rd party.



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Attoyou on 03 March 2013

The Wii U could have used the game in this dry season and it would have been nice to see the difference between the Wiiu-PS3-360 versions.

EA trying to dreamcast the Wii-U.



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thismeintiel on 03 March 2013
Mnementh said:
thismeintiel said:
hunter_alien said:


Or maybe big games like CoD/ME/AC all bombed on the WiiU and the preorders of NFS are non existent?

I mean we can blame the lack of Origin support as much as we want, but when will we start blaming the atrocious sales of 3rd party games?

This.

It costs money to finish polishing a game that is close to completion, to publish it, and advertise it.  If EA had a strong feeling that they would barely recoup those costs, then they aren't going to release the game.  Nintendo fans always complain about poor 3rd party support, but when they do get ports/multiplats, they don't seem to buy them.  Yet, they start to get pissed when 3rd parties begin to abandon their console because there is no money to be made.  I think Nintendo fans on this site need to have a long talk with their brethren, as the majority of them don't seem to care about 3rd party games. This is only going to hurt Nintendo in the long run.

Though, for some reason, this only applies to their home consoles.  Their handheld gets good 3rd party support and sales.  I guess that's because not only the Nintendo diehards and casuals buy those systems.  I have a 3DS myself.

Yes, sure, consumers are to blame not to buy subpar-games. How bad of Nintendo-fans. And Just Dance was really a first-party-title that Nintendo gave to Ubisoft to publish. No way that a third-party ever adapts to the needs of the customer-base of a console.

First of all, Just Dance was gobbled up by the casuals, not the diehard Nintendo fans.  Unfortunaly for Nintendo, casuals aren't gobbling up the Wii U.  And second, your subpar comment is the exact problem.  Nintendo fans who feel that no 3rd party can come close to their beloved Nintendo, regardless of the quality of 3rd party games and Nintendo games.  Unfortunately, the Nintendo fans that disagree with this are in the minority, as sales show, so have no choice but to buy a 2nd console for great 3rd party games.