@OP
did you come to that conclusion all by your self?
i definitely needed to see the pictures to being able to understand that $2000 PC is more powerful than a $500 gaming device.
you must be a genius...
/sarcasm

You are talking about API... the DirectX in consoles didn't have all the overhead than PC have... the same if we use OpenGL on consoles... the API have to be molded to works close to metal with specifics functions for the consoles.

And the middleware have optimizations to consoles too... use a API with less overhead than PC... when you compile the code the result binary have direct access to hardware in console and not in PC... that's the what the middleware do... you made global code but when you copile it the middleware the advantages of the consoles to the final binary (of couser it use the advantages of the PC too).

The middleware can output especifics binary for 64bits or specifc CPU/GPU too... but in PC you have a lot of hardware options so the middeware generate a common binary that works for every CPU/GPU combination... in this case the binary don't use all the new instructions or features presents in the news CPUs/GPUs.

The games in PC could run way way way way better than what you see if you fixe a specific CPU/GPU/Hardware.

See, this is what I'm talking about when I say you have reading comprehension problems, what made you think that I was even talking about what the 360 uses when we are not even on that topic? That came out from literally nowhere. On current PCs, OpenGL can be at least 20% faster than DirectX, but I take it that you didn't know that so you just jump to an entirely different thing as usual, stop that shit dood. I also already have mentioned that it depends on the engine devs to optimize the code for middleware games and that doesn't come close to what 1st party can offer, you are repeating what I already typed!

Dude you are so stupid and just read what you want to read.

The thread is about PC vs. consoles... the API was present in both PC and consoles... you talk about a overhead that the API have in PC and not in consoles... and says the DirectX is a worst API (in fact it is not)... I said to you the API in consoles (both DirectX and OpenGL) have to be molded and that overhead doest't exists and cited the X360 example (it only a exemple... a good one because it use the same DirectX API present in PC but customized to access directaly the hardware instead the layers of the OS).

You need to learn to be less arrogant and make more research for all nonsense talk you did sometimes.

I'm done with you... I will never have a another discussion with somebody so blind.

Thanks and sorry for my inconvenience.

PS. That's not the first time you did that.

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This post has been moderated.

-Smeags

You erased the first part completely then reply to something that was obviously not even what you thought was to start with because you don't even know what the context was and didn't even bother to clarify! Learn to read or just ask!

Optimising will definitely do a lot, that is why consoles can survive and why the Steam box will struggle in comparison

If you had a PC of the same actual GPU, it would be nowhere near producing anything looking as good as Killzone Shadow Fall, optimisation, especially when you have full control over more than just the GPU can yield great returns

Wait. Are you telling me that a PC that cost at least twice as much as a console has better graphics? Yeah right. Whats next? Water is wet?

You sure that PS4 picture isn't running on the Wii? That's hell of a downgrade.

Optimization for the PC comes in the initial development of the game and very frequent driver update.  On top of that, PCs can over clock their GPU's for a performance boost granted they have adequate cooling and a sufficient power supply.  Kepler units are generally considered over clocking beasts.  It's pretty much a free performance boost.  

Optimizing isn't magic.  It will not make a GPU that's designed 80% weaker than another by its hardware spec to perform on par with the stronger, more expensive GPU. 

KZ looked awesome but unless the devs make it for PC too then who's to say if the PC couldn't keep up with the same hardware and windows on top.  The PS is using an x64 architecture, the same as most gaming PCs out there.

It was definitely a quick rush job. there is literally no texture on the outer rims on the door of the ps4 version.. That is not a result of hardware limitations lol

Also they're not directly comparable, the lighting is different in the ps3 version because it has more lava