Is there any time the 360 fanboy doesn't make the reference that having XBL makes their online better?  This isn't a mention of the download and install speed as one who has owned both consoles will say 360 wins that all day long, although the PS3 download speed has increased by three times since the last update, so it might actually be equal in download speed now.  Installs still take a bit.

Online multiplayer.  Apparently paying $35-$60 a year makes developer netcode better and increases your internet connection.  Here's an example.  I went to Youtube and did two searches.  Mortal Kombat ranked PS3 and Mortal Kombat ranked 360.  I chose the first ranked match to come up with the same player on both lists. 

According to the players commentary, the PS3 version has a lag spike at one point during the match while the 360 match has lag all throughout.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiOLweyAMeo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_DDn-GoYJo

The reason why I chose Mortal Kombat is that we know it has poor netcode.  So there was a chance that one of the games would have a worse connection.  It just so happens that the same player plays the exact same game on two different consoles and the 360 version has worse netcode.  To be fair if you get the next match down from the same user, from the commentary it seems there isn't lag from either match.

That being said.  The 360 having less lag in games is a myth and nothing more.  XBL doesn't give you a better connection.  It's all about the netcode.  If you want even further proof.  Google "Persona 4 Arena 360 issues."  Before the game released, the developers stated the game has lag issues on the 360 when playing multiplayer.  Afterwards, they released a patch to fix it and bring it on par with the PS3 version

Someone also mentioned thatt 360 owners cheat less or team kill less because they pay for their services..  Check out this video.  62-1 on Call of Duty Black Ops 2.  Paying to play certainly stops you from cheating.  Definitely.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGDFaOJ3M8s

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If anything, they will have to be sure they don't pull off any or at least most of this stuff in the next gen, specially the RROD.

You've just destroyed any credibility you had.

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The Fat PS3 models are all dropping like flies RROD style and have been for the past year or so, not a big deal they're what 4-5 years old now, certainly not in the "normal" range for an electronic product though. Just wanted to clear up that inaccuracy.

You can blame EU regulations on lead based solder for that though, not Microsoft or Sony. Nobody really knew how the lead free solder would perform over time.

No need to be so attacking though OP, it's obvious you're digging for dirt, I think we're all intelligent enough to know where each company made foibles and each company made good decisions for the consumer. RROD/YLOD don't come into either of them since it was an untested type of solder and nobody could know.

I would stop that if I were you. MOD already warned about trying to derail the thread. You probably didn't see that post so I will just extend that knowledge to you.

This is exactly why I didn't get a 360 and why I won't be purchasing another xbox product.

I was very disappointed with the cut off for the original xbox, the RROD made me lose confidence in the quality of their hardware and the shift away from the hardcore gamer is worrying.

None of the Xbox fans will agree with this thread but it's all pretty much spot on.

as far as the connection speeds go, I personally always saw an opposite to what many say is true. My roommate's 360, when using the same Wifi my PS3 was, would get booted a lot. My PS3's DL speed and general connection was always more stable than his. When we changed services, total switch up.

I honestly think most ppl's issue with PS3 connection is an ISP issue, not the console ore the service. There is of course the randomly bad multiplat that makes one version more insufferable to play online than the other tho.

The only hardware maker that has consistently produced reliable hardware is Nintendo. Both Sony and MS have had quality issues. The PS1 and PS2 had shoddy quality and the 360 had shoddy quality. Truth be told, the games are what should decide which console you buy not the hardware manufacturer.

very true but which SHOULD they buy? As the gen will be fresh on both sides.

-Should they stick with MS in fear Sony will totaly misstep the begining of next gen the same way they did before, only to get much better as time passed?

-Or is the fear of MS giving you wht you wanted most so they get what they wanted/needed...then dropping them towards the end enough to detere them away/back to Sony or Nintendo?