It has also sold over 15M units (Move controllers only), so hardly a failure.  Of course, that number was from before the holidays kicked into gear, so most likely it is closer to 18M, now.  Again, hardly a failure.  I'm actually surprised it went on to sell so much, given its little amount of advertising compared to the Kinect.

As far as R&D goes, I'm sure the majority of the R&D for the Move went on during the PS2's lifecycle, as they were already showing prototypes of it in 2001.

LOL!  A biased article from a biased site.  You may want to try harder next time if you want to be taken seriously around here.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/3/10/2858772/sony-vp-admits-strategic-missteps-playstation-move Funny just because the last link i posted was from a Nintendonews site doesn't mean that the article was biased it still quoted what a sony VP said Maybe you learn how to read next time if you wan't to be taken seriously around here.

Or maybe you need to check your reading comprehension.  You went from a biased article claiming Sony admited the Move was a failure to an article that states that Sony's UK VP admits they took a few missteps with handling the Move (mostly talking about games, while saying nothing about being disappointed by its sales), yet act like they are one in the same.

@ Nsanity

Ah.  They must have changed how they report the numbers.  I know earlier when they reported ~4M sold, it was only Move controllers.  Still, you can bet that the vast majority (~12M or so) of that 15M are Move controllers.  Either way, far from a failure, saleswise.

Uh, Move is based on the Move controller and PSEye, which is based on the really old Eyetoy. Kinect is based on Eyetoy. So, you could say Move is based on the Wiimote and Eyetoy, but how in the world is it based on Kinect, considering it came out even before Kinect...

VGKing said: NintendoPie said: Like they don't have any games like that... It's never been their main focus though. The core gamer is and always will be their bread and butter. Can you honestly say that about Nintendo or Microsoft?

The only reason it wasn't the main focus is because people didn't want it. If Sony could have the success Nintendo or MS had, they'd love it. You're basically trying to pat them on the back for not harping on a product that the market said no thanks to.

And of course since it was a dud, Sony is now trying to act as if they are above it. Just like when they were being sued for the rumble stuff, suddenly they had no rumble and it was a "last gen feature". They the lawsuit is over and suddenly rumble is cool again.

Yes. I can honestly say that Nintendo "care" about the core gamer.

It can sell as much as it it likes but it doesnt matter if it doesn't meet Sony's Expectations.

That wasn't the question.

J_Allard said: VGKing said: NintendoPie said: Like they don't have any games like that... It's never been their main focus though. The core gamer is and always will be their bread and butter. Can you honestly say that about Nintendo or Microsoft? The only reason it wasn't the main focus is because people didn't want it. If Sony could have the success Nintendo or MS had, they'd love it. You're basically trying to pat them on the back for not harping on a product that the market said no thanks to. And of course since it was a dud, Sony is now trying to act as if they are above it. Just like when they were being sued for the rumble stuff, suddenly they had no rumble and it was a "last gen feature". They the lawsuit is over and suddenly rumble is cool again.

People did want it, Sony just didn't push it hard enough for 3rd parties to develop for it, Sony itself barely supported it beyond tacked-on support for games like Resistance 3/Killzone 3...etc. They're even integrating PS Move tech into the PS4 Dualshock....would they do that if Move was such a massive failure for them?

PS Move sales are very good for an optional add-on. It's right up there with Kinect and Wii Fit at the top sellers chart.