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NintendoPie on 11 February 2013
happydolphin said:

Wow man... think a little.

Do you mind expanding on what you just said? I don't understand if you're trying to tell me that I'm stupid for not thinking of FFXI or what.



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Piernik on 11 February 2013
leatherhat said:
NintendoPie said:
I know I won't be buying this. MMORPG's is not what I want, I just want RPG's period. (There's you reason SE, no one wants your MMO's, just like no one wanted that on FF MMO.)


FF11 was a huge hit


No it wasnt. It was a huge step back for the series. It went from mainstream franchise to a niche for nolife freaks that like to spent 500 hours on grinding and pay for that every month.

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Attoyou on 11 February 2013

Fantastic News. Hope it keeps on like this until they start making games people actually want again. 



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Game - Metro Last Light

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happydolphin on 11 February 2013
NintendoPie said:
happydolphin said:

Wow man... think a little.

Do you mind expanding on what you just said? I don't understand if you're trying to tell me that I'm stupid for not thinking of FFXI or what.

I'm talking about this reply:

NintendoPie said:
leatherhat said:
NintendoPie said:
I know I won't be buying this. MMORPG's is not what I want, I just want RPG's period. (There's you reason SE, no one wants your MMO's, just like no one wanted that on FF MMO.)


FF11 was a huge hit

?

I'm talking about Final Fantasy XIV.

You initially said that nobody wants a SE mmo, he brought up FFXI, and you say you were talking about FFXIV, but it doesn't matter since it already proves your first post wrong...

It's not about what you're talking about specifically (FFXIV), but about what your point is (nobody wants SE MMOs).



leatherhat on 11 February 2013
Piernik said:
leatherhat said:
NintendoPie said:
I know I won't be buying this. MMORPG's is not what I want, I just want RPG's period. (There's you reason SE, no one wants your MMO's, just like no one wanted that on FF MMO.)


FF11 was a huge hit


No it wasnt. It was a huge step back for the series. It went from mainstream franchise to a niche for nolife freaks that like to spent 500 hours on grinding and pay for that every month.


You realize mmo's have subsciption fee's right? Those no life freaks (All 2 million plus of them) made ff11 the most profitable final fantasy game of all time. 



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outlawauron on 11 February 2013
happydolphin said:
outlawauron said:

Just the difference between how the online capabilities of each console and the ease of the intregration there. While I'm operating on assumptions, there are factors built into Live and PSN that make it an easier experience for the player. Doesn't matter how robust the system that a developer makes if the frame isn't there.

You mean like inviting friends to a game, or player to player messaging and such?

As far as I know this could all be implemented in the game, much like FFXI had it, much like WoW has it. Wii also supports the keyboard.

But none of those games are on Wii....


While it's tough to do straight comparisons, I don't think anyone would try and argue that you should pick Wii and friend codes for your online platform over Live and PSN.



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happydolphin on 11 February 2013
outlawauron said:

But none of those games are on Wii....


While it's tough to do straight comparisons, I don't think anyone would try and argue that you should pick Wii and friend codes for your online platform over Live and PSN.

For example, in Monster Hunter Tri, I don't remember having to exchange friend codes. I doubt it's different in DQ.

Iirc, in Tri, you could look up a user by username and play with him/them.



Roma on 11 February 2013

they shouldn't have made it online based as now they will blame Nintendo for them not selling well on their systems



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NintendoPie on 11 February 2013
happydolphin said:
NintendoPie said:
happydolphin said:

Wow man... think a little.

Do you mind expanding on what you just said? I don't understand if you're trying to tell me that I'm stupid for not thinking of FFXI or what.

I'm talking about this reply:

NintendoPie said:
leatherhat said:
NintendoPie said:
I know I won't be buying this. MMORPG's is not what I want, I just want RPG's period. (There's you reason SE, no one wants your MMO's, just like no one wanted that on FF MMO.)


FF11 was a huge hit

?

I'm talking about Final Fantasy XIV.

You initially said that nobody wants a SE mmo, he brought up FFXI, and you say you were talking about FFXIV, but it doesn't matter since it already proves your first post wrong...

It's not about what you're talking about specifically (FFXIV), but about what your point is (nobody wants SE MMOs).

My statement still stands as FF MMO's do obviously worse than most (if not all) FF RPG's.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5113586 That should help you understand a little more of that I was going for. 

But did you seriously think I meant no one wanted their MMO's? If so, then you probably should've thought a little more about that. I was exaggerating!



benao87 on 11 February 2013
spurgeonryan said:

Dragon Quest X, an expensive online RPG with Square Enix at the helm, has not met the company’s expectations, and is a big reason for the studio’s recent financial issues.

MSN Japan has reported that this major publisher/developer is in the red for the first time since the merger of Square and Enix, falling well below expectations for the period of April to December 2012. Certain segments, like mobile games, are finding a moderate degree of success, but the significant investment that is Dragon Quest X has yet to attract a true following.

“The slump is reportedly down to the company’s new online RPG venture, Dragon Quest X,” MSN states. “While the disappointing financial turn for the company can be partially attributed to the burden of running the new online service, it is also down to game sales not meeting expectations. The Wii (and soon to be Wii U) game is however, making ‘steady progress’ according to Square Enix.”

Some MMOs are a bit of a slow burn, so there’s still time for Square to grow the game into something worth bragging about. However, only so much money can be sunk into Dragon Quest X before it’s labeled a failure.

Square isn’t what it once was, but do you still think it can produce profitable, memorable experiences?

http://stickskills.com/2013/02/10/dragon-quest-x-sales-below-expectations/

What, what, what? So, is it a big reason, or just partially a reason?

The article do recognices the actual statement from S-E "The operation of “DRAGON QUEST X,” a major MMORPG, started in August, 2012, has been showing steady progress" Here.

It even states that they have not turned profit "primarily due to the increasingly difficult condition of the world-wide console game market, under which the Group is struggling to achieve a fair expected return on its investment."the only games that recieve high praise are social games.

The whole "not reaching expectations" is speculation from the journalist, what about FFXIV, or Sleeping Dogs, for all that we know all console games are underperforming.

I'll just quote the whole thing.

• Digital Entertainment
The Digital Entertainment segment plans, develops, distributes and operates digital entertainment content primarily in the form of games. Digital entertainment content is offered to meet customer lifestyles across a variety of usage environments such as consumer game consoles (including handheld game machines), personal computers and mobile phones (including smartphones).


During the nine-month period ended December 31, 2012, the Digital Entertainment segment as a whole has not recovered the operating loss posted in the six-month period ended September 30, 2012, primarily due to the increasingly difficult condition of the world-wide console game market, under which the Group is struggling to achieve a fair expected return on its investment.


In the area of content for other platforms such as PCs and smartphones, “SENGOKU IXA,” a browser game, and “FINAL FANTASY BRIGADE,” a social networking game for Mobage, are generating an acceptable profit. In addition, newly released game titles such as “Kaku-San-Sei Million Arthur,” a social networking game released in April, 2012 serving more than 1 million registered users, have been expanding at a satisfactory pace. Registered users of “FINAL FANTASY ARTNIKS,” a social networking game released in November, 2012 for GREE, exceeded 1 million at the end of December, 2012.

The operation of “DRAGON QUEST X,” a major MMORPG, started in August, 2012, has been showing steady progress.


Net sales and operating losses in the Digital Entertainment segment totaled ¥57,827 million (an increase of 7.7% from the same period of the prior fiscal year) and ¥392 million (operating income of ¥12,451 million in the same period of the prior fiscal year), respectively.


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