You must be tired or something... cause you arent reading well, and now your seeing things. Thats was a gif, just for you. 

Yes, the delusion of factually accurate data.  I know you aren't fond of that.

Huh?  The NES sold ~62M, while the Gameboy sold almost twice that, ~119M.  The GBA sold ~82M, more than Gamecube's ~22M and Xbox's ~24M.  And the DS has outsold all home consoles from this gen.  So no, it's much more surprising that the PS2 reached >157M, as it has actually outsold both the handhelds that started in its gen, while being much more expensive.

Split the sales yearly (or any other time sampling you'd like) and you'll see what you didn't seem to get in my post, or maybe I worded it badly.

Actually a while ago I did a graph on yearly sales -- handhelds combined vs. home consoles combined starting from 1989 -- and posted it here just to have a graphical visualization of my point. It is probably still somewhere here, deep down into the depths of VGC forum. Handhelds sales starting from 2006 look like huge bump on this graph that more or less even them (first time in history) with home consoles sales (mostly due to DS obviously).

//So it pretty much shows what a beast DS was, as how fast it was selling. It did beat some previous handhelds records as well, like attach rate (not quite console level attach rate, but quite big one for a handheld of this popularity, smaller userbases tend to have bigger attach rates most of the time).

That's the most ridiculous comparison.  Talk about apples to oranges.  Of course if you combine home console sales of ALL consoles it will be more than handhelds, there are more of them.  Only since the PSP, has there been a competent non-Nintendo handheld on the market.  So, that is a skewed way of looking at the data to support your comment.  The fact is, Nintendo's handhelds have always out performed their home console counterparts.  That is until the PS2 came along.

Please do not involve me into your fanboy wars.

What I was trying to do at the time is to see the market capacity and how it growed. The market capacity is smth that have limits, if console #1 occupies some part fo it, it makes the sales of console #2 more problematic. Here goes your "more of them" argument. There're a lot of things that might grow the market outside of efforts made by actual competitors, but it undeniable that DS has grown the market. I'm interested in trends, while actual numbers -- a million more or less, did it pass PS2 or not -- you may discuss all you want, do not care. Doesn't change the fact.

That's why I wrote what I wrote. DS reaching that number is smth quite more amusing for me than PS2 reaching it's current lifetime sales. But that depends on perspective, I guess :D

//I'm not sure why your brought up PSP over here, but for the record it was, Game Gear. Hightest marketshare it ever reached against Game Boy was 25%, not quite PSP but very respectable, it got dwarfed eventually as it dies out while GB(C) kept selling. Your mistake is you operate with lifetime sales numbers, while time sampling will give you a different perspective, and a good one.

Ill just reply to this one. The numbers you are using arent fact. VGChartz numbers are NEVER fact. Ive told you this before. ioi himself, the owner of VGChartz, has said that VGC numbers are not fact. Please understand that. The VGChartz numbers currently have the DS selling more units than Nintendo have made available.

The other point - Nintendo DID only sell 30,000 DS' outside of America. This number comes from NINTENDO. Its not made up. Go check the financials. Nintendo actually disagree with you. Ignore the VGChartz estimations. Listen to Nintendo.

The other point - Nintendo simply isnt popular in the expanded markets. Eastern Europe, India, Middle East, South America, Africa, Asia w/o Japan. They never have been and they have barely tried to push any console there, while Sony have always tried to push products to these markets. The PS2 is affordable and it has one of the best libraries ever in terms of games.

Which leads me to another point - Sony really did sell more PS2s in 2012 than Nintendo did DS'. The numbers are there. Theyre easy to work out and theyre easy to find. Sony and Nintendo cannot lie about these numbers. Either PS2 sold more than the DS did in 2012, or the PS3 is undertracked by ~2m units. We KNOW that the PS3 isnt under by that much, thanks to Nintendo's charts.

Please actually read that and do the research.

That is anybody's guess, since there seems to be no concrete data. There are basically three camps; those that believe DS has ALREADY passed PS2 (hardcore Nintendo fans), those that believe it has not yet passed it, but will soon (logical assumption), and those that believe it NEVER will pass it (hardcore Sony fans). I count myself in the second category :P

So you think it's likely DS will not pass PS2, even though DS is 4 years younger, has more games yet to be released, and is still in production while PS2 is not? I think that's a long shot. Might take awhile, might even take 5 years or so, but I think DS passing PS2 is inevitable at this point. One important factor people forget is that Nintendo still has room for a pretty significant price drop, not to mention the holiday seasons to come, which tend to favor Nintendo.

No.