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What types of Guns should we ban?

All Guns 62 24.80%
 
All Guns, make guns legal... 16 6.40%
 
All Guns, in Major Cities... 9 3.60%
 
All Guns, except Hunting Rifles 16 6.40%
 
Just Handguns, they serve... 2 0.80%
 
Just Semi-Auto Rifles, a bit overkill 11 4.40%
 
None, but we should make ... 27 10.80%
 
None, we have a right to carry weapons 43 17.20%
 
None, I still don't beli... 42 16.80%
 
See Results 21 8.40%
 
Total:249
Michael-5 said:
ishiki said:

I would say no, because it causes a shitstorm and is going to be a slow process. 


The U.S. should be worrying about other more pertinent things. Like a balanced budget that cuts government spending. Than playing politics accusing Obama of not shooting skeet, and then obama showing him a picture of a shotgun.

imo anyways.

What about other countries? Canada's gun ownership rate is much lower then USA.

I'm not sure exactly what you're asking.

But I don't know enough about the political situation in Canada or other Countries, to say anything educated in that regard. Guns, and imo taking away existing rights is always a tricky situation. Even if there is unbiased data to back it up.






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Michael-5 said:

 

JoeTheBro said:

Watch this video if you are against guns and think you have stats backing it up.



That video is so biased.

If that's your opinion then nothing I say could change what you think about guns.



JoeTheBro said:
Michael-5 said:
 
 

 

JoeTheBro said:

Watch this video if you are against guns and think you have stats backing it up.



That video is so biased.

If that's your opinion then nothing I say could change what you think about guns.

You added so.... LOL

No, that video was largely false. He was criticisng someone else who "meant well, but was ill informed" and then introduces inaccurate information. What good is a gun ban, if you can't control the immigration of illegal weapons? Canada stops a lot of guns at the boarder, but Germany has free boarders, it can't really do that can it?

If you want to debate, show me some logic sourced from that video. I did agree that banning guns won't solve everything (like the mass slicings in China), but nothing else made any sense.



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ishiki said:
Michael-5 said:
ishiki said:

I would say no, because it causes a shitstorm and is going to be a slow process. 


The U.S. should be worrying about other more pertinent things. Like a balanced budget that cuts government spending. Than playing politics accusing Obama of not shooting skeet, and then obama showing him a picture of a shotgun.

imo anyways.

What about other countries? Canada's gun ownership rate is much lower then USA.

I'm not sure exactly what you're asking.

But I don't know enough about the political situation in Canada or other Countries, to say anything educated in that regard. Guns, and imo taking away existing rights is always a tricky situation. Even if there is unbiased data to back it up.

Oh, well I'm Canadian. Guns don't really make sense here. Only 3% the population of Toronto (The 5th largest city in North America) even carry a handgun. Why not ban it outright? We clearly don't seek protectionwith weapons here.

I only get protest from the USA, never heard another fellow Canuk disagree with me about banning guns.

Obviously, you can't remove guns outright, you take it one step at a time. A long time ago, before Canada formed and we were still British Colonies, we had simialr gun ownership laws and restrictions as you did. How come now only 200 years later (Canada is younger), are semi-automatic rifles banned here, gun ownership rates significantly lower then in the USA, and there are talks about banning handguns all together (This is why I voted Liberal - Your Democrat).

So does the USA really need semi-automatic rifles?



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Michael-5 said:
 

What about other countries? Canada's gun ownership rate is much lower then USA.

 

 

Yup, Canada, much lower homicide rate

The USA has 88 guns per 100 people, Canada has 31 per 100 people.  By your reasoning the murder rate by gun should be the same ratio.

Now this is where it falls apart.  In the USA per 100,000 people 3.6 are murdered by gun per year, in Canada per 100,000 people 0.5 are murdered by gun per year.

Remember we're not including suicide by gun, something people always lump in.

If we were to multiply 31 (number of guns per 100 in Canada)x 2.85 = approx 88 (Number of guns per 100 in USA), then multiply 0.5 (number of Canadian murders by gun per year) x 2.85 (number of times more guns USA has per capita then Canada) = 1.425

1.425?!  But then why are Americans killing each other with guns at a rate of 3.6 per 100,000, more then double the hypothetical rate of Canadians if Canadians had the same number of guns?

Maybe it's something to do with the American culture and not just the guns.



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Michael-5 said:

Oh, well I'm Canadian. Guns don't really make sense here. Only 3% the population of Toronto (The 5th largest city in North America) even carry a handgun. Why not ban it outright? We clearly don't seek protectionwith weapons here.

I only get protest from the USA, never heard another fellow Canuk disagree with me about banning guns.

Obviously, you can't remove guns outright, you take it one step at a time. A long time ago, before Canada formed and we were still British Colonies, we had simialr gun ownership laws and restrictions as you did. How come now only 200 years later (Canada is younger), are semi-automatic rifles banned here, gun ownership rates significantly lower then in the USA, and there are talks about banning handguns all together (This is why I voted Liberal - Your Democrat).

So does the USA really need semi-automatic rifles?

Today is your lucky day, I disagree, & I am Canadian.



chris_wing said:

 

Maybe it's something to do with the American culture and not just the guns.


well it does, as well as geographical locations, healthcare system (How does Canada's Healthcare system help mental health for example? idk). Again I'm not familar with canada. But the US/Mexico Border has all kinds of issues with violence and drug cartel etc. Where I'm sure the U.S. canada border is not near the issue.

I'm generally neutral. The main issue I have about taking away guns is more to do with the slippery slope of taking away existing rights. Than the guns themselves.

Imo the spirit of the 2nd ammendment was so that the citizens could retake a government that was corrupt or whatever. However, no one is going to take over the government with semi-automatic rifles against a military that has tanks, nukes, machine guns and body armor.  And thus, I understand the point of Semi-Auto's being useless. But that's already because from a certain point of view the 2nd Ammendment was already violated.

Some of the NRA proposals about censoring media violates the Spirit of the 2nd ammendment even more in my eyes. (If anything, the common people are going to overthrow the government through information rather than guns).

However, after all this trouble of banning guns what have you really done other than making a large group unhappy and creating a huge fissure between viewpoints. there are still illegal guns, Bombs, and knives. So how many lives would you really save? 50 a year, 100?

How many more lives could be saved by the government addressing more issues about the economy, and raising the general quality of life. Getting more people jobs so they don't have to resort to violence.




ishiki said:
chris_wing said:

 

Maybe it's something to do with the American culture and not just the guns.


well it does, as well as geographical locations, healthcare system (How does Canada's Healthcare system help mental health for example? idk). Again I'm not familar with canada. But the US/Mexico Border has all kinds of issues with violence. Where I'm sure the U.S. canada border is not near the issue.

I'm essentially neutral on the argument (and I don't think anyone else on the planet is haha).

The Mexico US border is a literal war zone, one that could be ended by legalizing & regulating the thing they fight over, control of the drug trade.  But that's a different topic for a different day.

Maybe Canada is better at treating mental health, maybe that's something the USA should work on rather then treating one symptom, gun violence.  Another number that would be interesting to look at is the number of Americans who kill by gun who had a diagnosable pre existing mental health dissorder.

EDIT: You updated your post.  I agree an AK vs a Predator Drone isn't a fair fight, but if the shit hits the fan it's atleast something to make them think twice.



I wonder if the Left will eventually get tired of being proven wrong on this issue...



JoeTheBro said:

Watch this video if you are against guns and think you have stats backing it up.

 


The guy used Brazil and Russia to back up his theory that less guns don't equal less gun deaths LMAO.



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