One of the biggest genocide in human history. If the Turks/Ottomans never came , Balkans and Middle East would've been much more richer and stronger 

As said before the smallpox did a genocide, not the spanish (eventhough they wheren't always nice to the natives). A big part of the native South Americans are still living in South America, but most of them speak partially spanish/portoguese. What happened to South America would have happened anyway because then because of the Europeans who come claimed the land in North America just took all the land of the natives overthere!! I would rather think about: How would the USA look like if the europeans never shown interest to come to North America.

You learn to read, I'll repeat myself again: It is one of the biggest genocides in human history. The Spaniards used christianity to justify their killings and robbing the continent of its riches, they even put it nicely in a declaration:

"On the part of the King, Don Fernando, and of Doña Juana, his daughter, Queen of Castile and León, subduers of the barbarous nations, we their servants notify and make known to you, as best we can, that the Lord our God, living and eternal, created the heaven and the earth, and one man and one woman, of whom you and we, and all the men of the world, were and are all descendants, and all those who come after us.

Of all these nations God our Lord gave charge to one man, called St. Peter, that he should be lord and superior of all the men in the world, that all should obey him, and that he should be the head of the whole human race, wherever men should live, and under whatever law, sect, or belief they should be; and he gave him the world for his kingdom and jurisdiction.

One of these pontiffs, who succeeded St. Peter as lord of the world in the dignity and seat which I have before mentioned, made donation of these isles and Terra-firma to the aforesaid King and Queen and to their successors, our lords, with all that there are in these territories,

Wherefore, as best we can, we ask and require you that you consider what we have said to you, and that you take the time that shall be necessary to understand and deliberate upon it, and that you acknowledge the Church as the ruler and superior of the whole world,

But if you do not do this, and maliciously make delay in it, I certify to you that, with the help of God, we shall powerfully enter into your country, and shall make war against you in all ways and manners that we can, and shall subject you to the yoke and obedience of the Church and of their highnesses; we shall take you, and your wives, and your children, and shall make slaves of them, and as such shall sell and dispose of them as their highnesses may command; and we shall take away your goods, and shall do you all the mischief and damage that we can, as to vassals who do not obey, and refuse to receive their lord, and resist and contradict him: and we protest that the deaths and losses which shall accrue from this are your fault, and not that of their highnesses, or ours, nor of these cavaliers who come with us ."

I wonder why today most South American people speak Spanish and are christian.

I disagree, before Turks entered the place there were wars among the peoples, Turks brought peace and prosperity, as soon as we left the place started having wars again. The Yugoslavian wars, the Arab/jewish conflict, sectarian wars in ME. We brought people from different religion and ethnicity together, whenever christian minorities were persecuted in Europe they fled to Ottoman Empire. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liever_Turks_dan_Paaps

The phrase "Liever Turks dan Paaps" was coined as a way to express that life under the Ottoman Sultan would have been more desirable than life under the King of Spain

Furthermore, various religious refugees, such as the Huguenots, some Anglicans, Quakers, Anabaptists or even Jesuits or Capuchins were able to find refuge at Constantinople and in the Ottoman Empire,^[7] where they were given right of residence and worship.^[8]

That declaration was forbidden by the Spanish Crown because there was a strong opposition in Spain to it, mostly by Catholic priests, but you don't say so.

Turkish, let me say it this way. You, and anyone of your country/origins/religion talking about slaughters/destruction is a bad joke.

In that period of history, there were wars among the peoples EVERYWHERE, and Turks didnt put an end to that. Its just that instead violence between Bulgarians and Serbs we saw violence between Turks  and anyone that was christian. I dont know about Middle Eastern people, but people in the Balkans have been constantly killed, converted and enslaved by the Ottomans.  

Going by your logic it would be best for our planet to be taken over by aliens and we should all be their slaves, because thats the best way to end violence and inequality among our species??? Going also by your logic, you could say that the Spanish brought peace and prosperity, because south americans were killin/enslaving eachother as well. Except that in spanish case, at least they brought civilization, education and technology amongs the bad things, while the Turks brought almost only the bad stuff (except cofee and Baklava and certain other types of food :) )

The real Aztec empire fell to 500 Spanish soldiers, a dozen cannons and some horses.

Oh and disease :P

any part of the world which has been colonized would have been better off had it not been colonized. It's hard to believe people actually ask questions like this.

I keep seeing this thread and i just don't know what to make of it.

I mean i love alternate histories, but this one isn't really explained enough.... like Europeans just decide never to go west?


I think the most likely scenario is one that nobody seems to have mentioned.

The Americas get Conquered by the Japanese or Chinese.

Gunpowder and guns flowed to the east and were in use as early as withing Cortez lifetime. Chances are one of them would discover the America's and would of conquered it's peoples.

As it's not likely North and South America would of developed gunpowder, and even if they did... there wasn't that much readily available iron.

This one is a no brainer.

The Aztec, Inca and Maya were spectacular civilizations. They would have kept evolving and gotten stronger.