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Player1x3 said:
TakeMeToTheHospital said:

The Wii is one of the best selling consoles of all time.  It only sold better than 1 PS console

The 3DS is selling better than the DS up to this point in it's life and the DS is the best selling console of all time.  Wrong. PS2 is still the king

The Wii U is selling better than the PS3 and 360 so far. Not if you include PS3's european launch

What are you talking about? The WiiU is doing very poorly 

 

Also the Wii U will do awesome once the games come rolling out. I'm a grade 3/4 primary school teacher and almost everyone of my students wants a Wii U. 




But according to VGChartz the DS has sold more than the PS2. Do you know something I don't? 

http://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/



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SuperMarioWorld said:

But according to VGChartz the DS has sold more than the PS2. Do you know something I don't?

http://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/

Sony's official "shipped" numbers are about 4 million higher than VGChartz's "sold" numbers. It could mean that VGChartz has failed to track more recent sales... or it could mean that Sony is counting shippings that aren't really sales to retailers (such as shipping replacement units, for instance). The official "shipped" numbers are the basis for the claim that PS2 is still ahead.

But anyway, if the PS2 is still ahead, it's only ahead due to sales in the "other" regions, at least based on VGChartz numbers. Not sure what this means - is there really an extra ~12 million sold in the "other" regions, or is that just how VGChartz "corrected" the worldwide number?



Nintendo has released 6 home consoles, and out of those, only two were dominant. Yes, that's right. It may shock the under 21s in here to understand this, but Nintendo has lost just as much as it's won. During the DC/PS2/Xbox and Gamecube era, they were the butt of every joke. From being kiddy, to "it's a purple toy lunch box", no one cared about Gamecube. Even their games, like WW and SMS were not liked (history has been revised by the little kids at the time who are now old enough to voice their opinon online. Believe me, the cartoon Link was mocked and hated).

It was a little weird watching all the kids of the Gamecube era take to the internet, and boast about how unbeatable Nintendo was and how the Wii-U will take names, because they're "Nintendo" and thus, should never be doubted. If you thought that, you were either too young to know better, or don't know your history.



You should be forced to give up control of the Nintendo News thread.  I am starting to dislike you.  Goodbye



prayformojo said:

Nintendo has released 6 home consoles, and out of those, only two were dominant. Yes, that's right. It may shock the under 21s in here to understand this, but Nintendo has lost just as much as it's won. During the DC/PS2/Xbox and Gamecube era, they were the butt of every joke. From being kiddy, to "it's a purple toy lunch box", no one cared about Gamecube. Even their games, like WW and SMS were not liked (history has been revised by the little kids at the time who are now old enough to voice their opinon online. Believe me, the cartoon Link was mocked and hated).

It was a little weird watching all the kids of the Gamecube era take to the internet, and boast about how unbeatable Nintendo was and how the Wii-U will take names, because they're "Nintendo" and thus, should never be doubted. If you thought that, you were either too young to know better, or don't know your history.


Still trying to understand what the fuck you are talking about...  So the you think the kids that grew up with the GC became cocky about Nintendo?  I'm sorry but if anything it would be my generation that grew up with the NES that would be cocky about Nintendo.  Nintendo was written off the home console industry during the GC era.  Remember most called the Wii Nintendo's last home console system?  If anyone was cocky it would be Sony fans from PS1/PS2 era to PS3 era.  Very few people were calling for a come back for Nintendo when they released the Wii.  Except me

http://www.dailytoreador.com/archives/article_d160d55c-67b9-56c8-9cab-9b1a24132d5b.html



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prayformojo said:

Nintendo has released 6 home consoles, and out of those, only two were dominant.

Three, by my count. NES, SNES, and Wii.



Aielyn said:
prayformojo said:

Nintendo has released 6 home consoles, and out of those, only two were dominant.

Three, by my count. NES, SNES, and Wii.

Well actually four as he included the Wii U which is currently the dominant 8th gen console.



Aielyn said:
Mummelmann said:
No, I'm saying that the data you get from such an analysis is inconclusive. But, going by the moment (which is all we have), its not headed for greatness. I imagine people will still be chanting "give it some time to settle" one year from now if sales haven't picked up greatly.

But nobody is trying to use the 360 or 3DS to specifically predict what will happen with the Wii U. All they're doing is pointing to those other consoles and saying "see, short-term behaviour doesn't predict long-term behaviour". They prove that you can't look at what the Wii U sold in the week ending the 19th of January 2013 and draw conclusions about how well the system will be selling in March 2013, let alone in 2014.

Rather than so many people predicting Wii U doom, why can't they simply say "the Wii U is going to need something more to return to reasonable sales", and leave it at that? It's a reasonable, measured comment that says that there are weaknesses with the Wii U that need to be addressed. No doom, no gloom, and certainly no gloating or joy over the weak current sales of a console that is "competing" with a person's preferred system.


Because some people feel that this is not the case. The weaknesses are not something solely to be fixed with games, price cuts and patches, the very console itself is designed in such as way that it misses both markets, this cannot be redeemed by any of the above.

However, it is up to anyone to measure what one would consider "reasonable sales".



Mummelmann said:
Because some people feel that this is not the case. The weaknesses are not something solely to be fixed with games, price cuts and patches, the very console itself is designed in such as way that it misses both markets, this cannot be redeemed by any of the above.

However, it is up to anyone to measure what one would consider "reasonable sales".

The very fact that people on here try to talk about "two markets" demonstrates their complete and utter failure to understand the videogame industry and the broad spectrum of market that exists out there.



cuberandgamer said:
The 3ds recovered around christmas in 2011.
The Wii U is selling well for a console thats competing with other consoles that are twice as cheap and have an established library. look at the ps3 and xbox 360 launches and the sales are very similar around launch.
The Wii died because the Wii U came out and no one wants a wii.


The Wii died long before the WiiU came out. Look at the sales last year around this time.

WiiU is nearly twice as cheap as PS3 was at launch.