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Max King of the Wild on 27 January 2013
the_dengle said:
Max King of the Wild said:
the_dengle said:
Man, I see some people being downright silly about the 3DS, acting like being down YOY for a single week by under 20k is as good as a death sentence.

It's a long year, guys. 52 weeks, and some of the least important of them are in January. If you obsess over every single one of them, sure, you'll find something to be negative about, but you'll be missing the big picture. 3DS is going to have a spectacular year.

the least important in jan?

Certainly, some of them. The first week of January is huge. The latter ones... not so much.

Like u said there are 52 weeks in a year. You already admitted the first week in Jan is huge. That leaves 3 out of 52 weeks... Only other months that are bigger than Jan is Nov (Solely because of BF) and Dec. That means Jan is the third most important month of the year. As you can see from shipment reports this quarter recieve more shipments than the 2 following it. Jan may not be as important as the other two months but it is definatly more important than more than 3/4ths the year. Thats hardly one of the least important



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tbone51 on 27 January 2013

3DS will get major sales this year count on it! No system will come close obviously!



the_dengle on 27 January 2013
Max King of the Wild said:

Like u said there are 52 weeks in a year. You already admitted the first week in Jan is huge. That leaves 3 out of 52 weeks... Only other months that are bigger than Jan is Nov (Solely because of BF) and Dec. That means Jan is the third most important month of the year. As you can see from shipment reports this quarter recieve more shipments than the 2 following it. Jan may not be as important as the other two months but it is definatly more important than more than 3/4ths the year. Thats hardly one of the least important

I didn't say January is one of the least important months, I said the latter weeks of January are among the less important weeks. January's high sales derive solely from the first week. The latter weeks of January don't come cose to the last 10 weeks of the year, or even to the final 2 weeks of March (understandably above-average weeks).

Is there anything about my comments you disagree with other than my choice of words regarding January? Because the point stands that it's a long year and we're less than 6% of the way through it.



Max King of the Wild on 27 January 2013
Farsala said:
Despite the stellar 7th/8th year sales of PS360, I have reason to believe it is Sony's and MS fault that their is this videogame crash. If they would have released new consoles before the Wii U then I think the situation that we are in now would be a lot different with sales consistent with 2006 numbers. Vita and Wii U would certainly have more thought into their release schedules by 3rd parties then the situation right now. I mean their is less releases this year then in recent memory if all the next gen consoles would be out then 3rd parties would be more inclined to port to Wii U and vita then now. Agree or Disagree?

If anyone is to blame for the video game collapse by mismanaging new consoles it would be Nintendo. I have absolutely no idea why Nintendo decided to end their generation early. The last years of the Wii clearly showed Nintendo didn't have a winning (so they thought) strategy at the beginning of the generation and they clearly couldn't or didn't want to adopt one.



Max King of the Wild on 27 January 2013
the_dengle said:
Max King of the Wild said:

Like u said there are 52 weeks in a year. You already admitted the first week in Jan is huge. That leaves 3 out of 52 weeks... Only other months that are bigger than Jan is Nov (Solely because of BF) and Dec. That means Jan is the third most important month of the year. As you can see from shipment reports this quarter recieve more shipments than the 2 following it. Jan may not be as important as the other two months but it is definatly more important than more than 3/4ths the year. Thats hardly one of the least important

I didn't say January is one of the least important months, I said the latter weeks of January are among the less important weeks. January's high sales derive solely from the first week. The latter weeks of January don't come cose to the last 10 weeks of the year, or even to the final 2 weeks of March (understandably above-average weeks).

Is there anything about my comments you disagree with other than my choice of words regarding January? Because the point stands that it's a long year and we're less than 6% of the way through it.



Other than I think you are severly underplaying Jan (in it's entirety) I do not have anything more to add.



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Farsala on 27 January 2013
Max King of the Wild said:
Farsala said:
Despite the stellar 7th/8th year sales of PS360, I have reason to believe it is Sony's and MS fault that their is this videogame crash. If they would have released new consoles before the Wii U then I think the situation that we are in now would be a lot different with sales consistent with 2006 numbers. Vita and Wii U would certainly have more thought into their release schedules by 3rd parties then the situation right now. I mean their is less releases this year then in recent memory if all the next gen consoles would be out then 3rd parties would be more inclined to port to Wii U and vita then now. Agree or Disagree?

If anyone is to blame for the video game collapse by mismanaging new consoles it would be Nintendo. I have absolutely no idea why Nintendo decided to end their generation early. The last years of the Wii clearly showed Nintendo didn't have a winning (so they thought) strategy at the beginning of the generation and they clearly couldn't or didn't want to adopt one.


6 years after the old console is not an abnormal release for a new console. I think Nintendo had some share of the blame with their last 2 years of Wii support though.



tbone51 on 27 January 2013
Max King of the Wild said:
Farsala said:
Despite the stellar 7th/8th year sales of PS360, I have reason to believe it is Sony's and MS fault that their is this videogame crash. If they would have released new consoles before the Wii U then I think the situation that we are in now would be a lot different with sales consistent with 2006 numbers. Vita and Wii U would certainly have more thought into their release schedules by 3rd parties then the situation right now. I mean their is less releases this year then in recent memory if all the next gen consoles would be out then 3rd parties would be more inclined to port to Wii U and vita then now. Agree or Disagree?

If anyone is to blame for the video game collapse by mismanaging new consoles it would be Nintendo. I have absolutely no idea why Nintendo decided to end their generation early. The last years of the Wii clearly showed Nintendo didn't have a winning (so they thought) strategy at the beginning of the generation and they clearly couldn't or didn't want to adopt one.



wat makes you think its too early??? How is PS3 and X360 not too late? Its their decision whether or not to release something. Other systems didn't last as long as this gen,if anything everybody is late!



the_dengle on 27 January 2013
Max King of the Wild said:


Other than I think you are severly underplaying Jan (in it's entirety) I do not have anything more to add.

I never said anything about January in its entirety. I was criticizing people for blowing up the importance of a single week in January that is not the first.

The 3DS tracking behind its sales last year after 3 weeks is completely irrelevent. The bottom line is that the console will sell more hardware and software in 2013 than it did in 2012. Anyone who questions this is either being silly or is simply ignorant of the state of the handheld.

PS, if you want to find someone to blame for the "collapse" of the industry, I suggest that the only hardware manufacturer that turned an overall profit this past gen is a bad place to start.



Max King of the Wild on 27 January 2013

Profit meas nothing to the consumer... and "no other console blahblah blah" no other generation was as massve as this one... its called adapting



the_dengle on 27 January 2013
Max King of the Wild said:
Profit meas nothing to the consumer... and "no other console blahblah blah" no other generation was as massve as this one... its called adapting

Profit means nothing to the consumer? What about to the company? How is losing money year after year just by selling your product a sustainable business model?

Nintendo got it right. They got it way more right than Sony and Microsoft, and that's why they were the most (or only) profitable hardware producer this gen.