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Would a GCN2 sell?

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the_dengle on 13 January 2013
Mensrea said:

the best Nintendo first party since the SNES,

So here is my scenario. The Wii lifecycle is completed, Nintendo announces a console with specs on par, or slightly better than PS4 Nextbox, normal controller, updated Wii mote, great online services, and a bevvy of First party and third party support.

In regards to the first line, you realize there was only one Nintendo home console between the two systems you're comparing, right? So you're really only saying the GameCube had a better first-party lineup than the N64. @bolded, you lost me; the GameCube had none of these things.

You want to know what the REAL GameCube 2 would be? It would have specs on-par with Sony and Microsoft's next consoles, yeah, and it would be cheaper than them. It would, of course, have Nintendo games, no different from any of Nintendo's previous consoles. It would have ZERO multimedia capabilities -- no Blu-Ray or DVD player, no Netflix app, no web browser, no youtube app, no TVii, nothing. Its online capabilities where games are concerned would be similar to those of the Wii U. The controller would be modified Wii Remote & Nunchuks with bigger, more colorful buttons. And outside of standard multiplatform support (Madden, COD, etc) and a few high-profile exclusives that would certainly not stay that way, the console would receive little dedicated third-party support.

It would also use discs the size of Harry Potter's glasses lenses to confound would-be digital pirates, resulting in a handful of developers like Bethesda shaking their heads and dismissing the console in disgust.



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bdbdbd on 13 January 2013






S.T.A.G.E. said:

Videogames were considered toys when Nintendo was on top. That period was the mid 80's to the mid 90's. Care to deny that?

Of course I'm not denying it. Didn't I already say that? They were considered as toys when Atari was on top, they were considered as toys when Nintendo was on top, they were considered as toys when Sony was on top.

The big difference between the time periods of 70's to 80's and 90's to 00's is that the former had games consoles in livingrooms, and families playing them, while the latter had consoles in kids rooms, and kids playing them.

The DVD-playing functionality of PS2 provided value, as that was a cheap option to have a DVD-player for your kids.



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Nintendo games sell only on Nintendo system.

platformmaster918 on 13 January 2013
SpartenOmega117 said:
I still hold my belief that Nintendo totally messed up the design of the GameCube and it really did make it look like it was for kids. I'm not talking about ten year olds kids either. Many 10 year olds wouldn't even want it. Maybe more like 6 year olds. Design of a console is important. Really just think how awkward it would be to invite some high school friends over to party and play on the awkward little GameCube. Not gonna deny that the games were good on it though. Star fox adventures was one of my favorites and obviously metroid prime was big. I remember I played a ton of naruto on it as well. Nintendo did learn its lesson though which is the reason why the Wii and Wii u look like the way they are right now. They still messed up the name though. Wii U? How about Wii 2?

How about Nintendo Revolution?  That and Kitana are still the coolest 2 console names never used and I wish they still would be.




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Nem on 13 January 2013

In a way, the 3DS is a gamecube. Ponder on that. ;)



Player2 on 13 January 2013
platformmaster918 said:
SpartenOmega117 said:
I still hold my belief that Nintendo totally messed up the design of the GameCube and it really did make it look like it was for kids. I'm not talking about ten year olds kids either. Many 10 year olds wouldn't even want it. Maybe more like 6 year olds. Design of a console is important. Really just think how awkward it would be to invite some high school friends over to party and play on the awkward little GameCube. Not gonna deny that the games were good on it though. Star fox adventures was one of my favorites and obviously metroid prime was big. I remember I played a ton of naruto on it as well. Nintendo did learn its lesson though which is the reason why the Wii and Wii u look like the way they are right now. They still messed up the name though. Wii U? How about Wii 2?

How about Nintendo Revolution?  That and Kitana are still the coolest 2 console names never used and I wish they still would be.

Yeah, Kitana is cool and kicks ass, and she's a princess too!



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HappySqurriel on 13 January 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Free Radical became a useless entity once Halo and COD came out. Time Splitters was a niche shooter and Silicon Knights..well you saw their track record this gen, they just sucked.

I don't think these developers were "bad" as much as they were unprepared to handle the size and expense of HD projects; had they stuck with project that were similar in size to previous generation games I suspect they would have produced games that did better critically and had better sales.



ninjablade on 13 January 2013
Mensrea said:

The Gamecube sold abysmally. Sitting just around 20 million, it's Nintendo's biggest failure sans Virtual boy. Yet I would argue that it was Nintendo's greatest system. Sporting a comfortable controller, the best Nintendo first party since the SNES, some great third party, and all of these games looked amazing because of the powerful hardware. The Gamecube was without a doubt a "Core" gamers console. 

I think that the reason it failed wasn't because of what it was, but simply becuase of the PS2. I don't think we will ever see a force as dominant as that console out of the big three again. I think the market is much bigger now, and more open minded to owning two or more consoles. 

 

So here is my scenario. The Wii lifecycle is completed, Nintendo announces a console with specs on par, or slightly better than PS4 Nextbox, normal controller, updated Wii mote, great online services, and a bevvy of First party and third party support. 

 

How would it sell? Would it recieve third party support? How would it be viewed. 

 

 

I think that in a market where there is no PS2 equivilent, the GCN2 could outsell it's competitors. Nintendo already has a lot of families buying the system for Mario, regardless of what control scheme/power. So they have that crowd locked up. Then let's se they gain 10-15 million core gamers that are open minded, their typical 20-25 million core fanbase, and another 10 or so million for the casuals. 

 

 

I think that a GCN2 would succeed.

GCN2 would probably not succeed, its just too late at the moment, microsoft pulled off a miracle to get 50% core audience from the ps3, lets face it microsoft made all the right moves and sony made a fatal mistake, yet sony is still gonna outsell the 360 sometime in the near future, nintendo doesnt have an online community like xbox live and psn, that gonna take nintendo at least 7 years to build and they would need all the third party support they can get and they won't cause gamers that buy blops 2, halo, gears, battle field 3 and all the other big name selling online games are not gonna leave there communty to go play on a nintendo system and that's proven by how pathetic blops 2 sales are on wii u.



Birimbau on 13 January 2013

The biggest problem of GC was lack of 3rd party support, not the price. Nintendo has had a huge problem with thirds since N64. Hence the fact of all its hardcore consoles failed, except Nes/Snes(which had a lot of 3rds support). This may be a problem to WiiU, if Nintendo expects to attract core gamers to WiiU, it is doing wrong, without most of the biggest 3rd party games this year.



sethnintendo on 13 January 2013

To answer your poll question...



sethnintendo on 13 January 2013
Birimbau said:

The biggest problem of GC was lack of 3rd party support, not the price. Nintendo has had a huge problem with thirds since N64. Hence the fact of all its hardcore consoles failed, except Nes/Snes(which had a lot of 3rds support). This may be a problem to WiiU, if Nintendo expects to attract core gamers to WiiU, it is doing wrong, without most of the biggest 3rd party games this year.


I'd say 3rd party support on GC was pretty decent.