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Sony needs to announce LTD of PS2 numbers so people can realize DS will never catch it. Wii beating PS1 aswell? keep dreaming.

Anyway you lasted 3 gens and over 12 years, the beast of all gaming machines  is finally to an end it's a sad day for gamers :(



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It looks like the DS will outsell PS2 very soon then. There is now way Nintendo will discontinue the DS or the Wii anytime soon. They really want the Wii to pass the PlayStation and the DS to pass the PS2. They want those records and they aren't going to give up until they get them.



newwil7l said:
It looks like the DS will outsell PS2 very soon then. There is now way Nintendo will discontinue the DS or the Wii anytime soon. They really want the Wii to pass the PlayStation and the DS to pass the PS2. They want those records and they aren't going to give up until they get them.

Well, the Wii does have a shot at the PS1.  It should have reached ~99M shipped by the end of 2012.  The Wii U just launched a few months ago, so it should remain on the market for another year and half, which should at least see it reach 103M.

The DS, on the other hand, is not going to be selling for another 3 years (the time its going to need to pass it if the PS2 was disconintued today, which it isn't).  It'll probably only reached 154M shipped as of the end of 2012, which is still lower than the PS2's shipment numbers from March 2012.  By the end of 2012, I would estimate the PS2 to be ~157.5M.  The DS saw a decrease of ~61% next year, so even if the rate of decline stays flat this year, that would still only put the number at ~155.5M, which is still only 400K over the PS2's number from March 2012.  In other words, it ain't happening.



thismeintiel said:
Michael-5 said:

If PS2 is discontinued, that means they aren't shipping anymore units, and like I showed you in my link, I see no way PS2 has shipped more then 157.3 million units.

DS may be overtacked by 86k, it's been adjusted heavily the last few weeks. VGC is not the most accurate in keeping up with sales, hence this is why they stopped bothing with PS2.

I think DS can top PS2, but only if PS2 is truely discontinued, in all regions. If they still ship PS2's, then PS2 should remain king.

Thoughs on Wii surpassing PS1?

Yes, but the PS2 hasn't been discontinued.  Only in Japan.  And even if it had, it's going to be awhile before the DS passes even 157.3M.  I'd be surprised if the DS has even passed 154M with this holiday season added in.  And I wouldn't be surprised if the DS is discontinued late 2013 - early 2014.

If this article and Wikipedia are correct, PS2 has been discontinued. LOL.

So assuming that this information is correct (and for the purpose of this thread I see no reason for it not to be), then DS will surpass PS2.

However if it's incorrect, or Sony shipped an excess of units at the end to sit on shelves for a couple years, then DS probably won't surpass PS2.

So it's a matter on if Wikipedia and this article are correct about this, since this isn't a Sony press conference, or if this is inside news, coming before a press conference.

DS sold 3.5 million units in 2012, you'd honestly be surprised if it sold 0.2 million units until it's discontinued? It's at 153.8 million right now. Surely 156-158 is probable. DS could be discontinued anytime, you're right, but it sold over a million in Q4 in USA in 2012, only down like 10% from 2011. The $99 price point makes it an appealing system to people who aren't huge on gaming.



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Wander_ said:

Wii outselling the ps1? In your dreams.
DS outselling PS2? maybe but that doesn't count.

It does count. I don't care if one is a Handheld and one is a Home Console, they both are gaming systems. 



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gatito said:
Nintendo should release a DS mini and give it away with Happy meals to further boost DS's sales.

That wouldn't count because it would be a pack-in.



thismeintiel said:
newwil7l said:
It looks like the DS will outsell PS2 very soon then. There is now way Nintendo will discontinue the DS or the Wii anytime soon. They really want the Wii to pass the PlayStation and the DS to pass the PS2. They want those records and they aren't going to give up until they get them.

The DS, on the other hand, is not going to be selling for another 3 years (the time its going to need to pass it if the PS2 was disconintued today, which it isn't).  It'll probably only reached 154M shipped as of the end of 2012, which is still lower than the PS2's shipment numbers from March 2012.  By the end of 2012, I would estimate the PS2 to be ~157.5M.  The DS saw a decrease of ~61% next year, so even if the rate of decline stays flat this year, that would still only put the number at ~155.5M, which is still only 400K over the PS2's number from March 2012.  In other words, it ain't happening.

PS2 has sold 156.7 million now and has shipped 157.3 million. So if PS2 was discontinued like the link says, then DS needs to sell only 3.5 million units to top PS2. DS sold 3.5 million units in 2012.

So, with the rate it's falling, it's likely to break 1 million in USA alone for Q4 (hasn't dropped much this quarter, in this region for over a year). In Japan it's dead, and we can only expect 1 million from Europe. So DS should sell 2-2.5 million units in 2013, and then it would just need 1-1.5 million units for 2014, which is very very possible.

Also note that DS's rate of decline has flattened out now that 3DS has established itself. Comparing this weeks sales to the same time last week, DS only fell 37%, and that number is dropping with every week. Still, assuming a 40% decline, that means DS will sell about 1.225 million units less then 2012, which means 2.225 million sold (like I estiamted above lol). Then DS just needs 1.225 to tie PS2.



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NintendoPie said:
Wander_ said:

Wii outselling the ps1? In your dreams.
DS outselling PS2? maybe but that doesn't count.

It does count. I don't care if one is a Handheld and one is a Home Console, they both are gaming systems. 


Sorry honey. But you gotta play by the rules and the rules say you can't compare a HANDHELD to a CONSOLE.



Wander_ said:


Sorry honey. But you gotta play by the rules and the rules say you can't compare a HANDHELD to a CONSOLE.

I am though, so there.

The DS can outsell the PS2 and just because you say that we can not compare the two because one is a Hanheld Console and one is a Home Console doesn't mean anything. If the DS doesn't beat the PS2 then it doesn't. But if the DS does, then it is the best selling console ever.



NintendoPie said:
Wander_ said:


Sorry honey. But you gotta play by the rules and the rules say you can't compare a HANDHELD to a CONSOLE.

I am though, so there.

The DS can outsell the PS2 and just because you say that we can not compare the two because one is a Hanheld Console and one is a Home Console doesn't mean anything. If the DS doesn't beat the PS2 then it doesn't. But if the DS does, then it is the best selling console ever.


They are totally different, Don't try to change my mind.