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F0X said:
Essentially, the term "next-gen" is whatever the hell you want to make of it.

The actual point, however, is that the processing speed is not "horrible and slow". If not, then there are no consoles on the market with remotely decent processors.

Pretty much this, besides the guy only says CPU speed and any person with a minimal knowledge on tech should know a processor speed isn't everything. Does that make the Wii U CPU ultra powerful? Of course not, but there are other factors that doesn't make the processor weaker or on par to the PS360. 



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EDIT: I'm replying to the latest reply to one of my posts, don't know why it quoted the wrong one.

The Wii was the next generation system from Nintendo. It was different on a fundemental level from the types of consoles that were offered before. Next-gen of consoles have nothing to do with processing power.

You can talk about next gen of graphis cards and CPU if you like, but that's a different thing from the next wave of consoles. With your logic, the NES was gen 2 because every gaming computer at the time was 16-bit and SNES was gen 3 because it had a commodore 64 CPU.



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KHlover said:
Mazty said:

Edited for accuracy. 
The garden wasn't a zelda tech demo, so we will have to wait and see.

But you agree there is no reason YET to think Legend of Zelda U won't look at least as good as the tech demo?

I think the point is that the Zelda tech demo didn't really look next gen and that was already my (and probably some others) impression when they first showed it in 2011 and that was with the assumption of 60FPS and/or 1080p and before Sony showed off The Last of Us, Beyond and God of War Ascension and before Microsoft gave us the first Halo 4 gameplay scenes. Not even mentioning multiplats like Crysis 3, Castlevania Lords of Shadow 2, MGS Ground Zeroes and other impressive ones I might have forgotten.

The final game should look better than the tech demo or else it won't be very impressive graphically.



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Nirvana_Nut85 said:

My bad on the vid (accidentally got the wrong one)


Oh and here's Doom 3 (could find a good pic with the hud so here's a vid as well)

Yeah - Forza looks considerably better. Motion blur, higher res textures, reflections, higher resolution etc. Doom is just your standard low lighting mixed with bumps and bloom affair at a low res...



The way I see it the Wii U isn't meant to be a graphical 'next gen' beast. It's focus like the Wii is about innovation in the control method and bringing more people into gaming or at least nabbing some of that huge ipad/android gaming crowd. That's what the naysayers seem to ignore (at their peril).

But the diehard Nintendo fans are just as bad. They can't see that technically the Wii U is really quite standard. I mean competing against current 6-7 year old tech is nothing to write home about. Imagine if the CG was competing against the N64, or N64 against the SNES or SNES against the NES .....furthermore current gen had to go hi def against standard def of the previous gen which in itself required a huge power boost. Burnout Revenge on 360 looks far superior to the Xbox or PS2 versions.



Yes but isn't it nice to have a console manufacturer that has a point of difference with their
product? As cool as Nextbox and PS4 will be, with most titles coming out on both systems the difference
between the two will be almost insignifigant.
Don't forget in the last generation Microsoft and Sony both went down the motion control route (playstation move was laughable!) and Nintendoo stuck to their guns and outsold them both. I would be willing to bet that when the Nextbox/PS4 are announced they have some version of the tablet controller in some form....



ninjablade said:
cusman said:
KungKras said:
Mazty said:
“The Wii U is an infant that’s just been born. It’s a little unfair to compare it to mature platforms that people have been working on for over five years."

Not really. When the 360 came out PGR3 blew everything else out of the water in terms of graphics. If the Wii U wants to prove itself as being next gen, then it needs a title that clearly does this. In terms of efficiency it's clearly next gen shaving 100W off the load of the 360, but which gamer really cares about that?

Why does graphics have to be the only innovation determining what is next-gen?

Wii was next-gen, and so is Wii U. The motion controls of the Wii changed gaming far more than the HD graphics of the HD twins.

You are wrong to think it changed gaming... for a brief moment in time it got a lot of new people playing and some of them are still playing. It was an audience expansion, not an audience conversion.

The audience that converted favored the change to HD graphics and other perks on HD twins more than the motion control gimmick of any console.

100% true, wii sold to none gamers that thought motion controls were amazing and could help them and there kids exercise, it was a fresh new concept that took off, at the sametime those people, are not loyal like your 360/ps3 fanbase that will keep on buying games and looking for to the new system, just look at the wii u in europe that system is as dead as it gets and i expect the samthing to happen in the us, nintendo has lost its gamer fanbase they have all moved to 360/ps3, who can blame them.


So let me get this right.

You are saying from analyzing the over 20 million plus people that bought nsmbwii, 30 million people that bought MKwii , 10 million that bought the galaxy games, and however much that bought games like SSbb, DKCR etc, with your logic and reasoning that you came to the conclusion that they bought these games because they could help them exercise.

Is that what you were thinking when you wrote that post?



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