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Mazty on 07 January 2013
Mr Khan said:
Mazty said:
Mr Khan said:

Mazty said:

Companies are not malicious. Greedy? Yes. Malicious? Where's the profit in that? Saying a company is malicious is rediculously humanising the issue. As I said above, with the wii u not even being 2% of the market and with it showing very little improvement over the 360 and PS3 (technically) then paying to have a team learn how to dev for the wii u and port the game just isn't going to be profitable. 

If it's not worth learning now, it will never be worth learning, which means third parties will once again be down a "viable" platform, and "forced" to hash it out in a shrunken, super-competitive space.

Yeah. Exactly. That's probably the literal calculation that these publishers have done, hence the lack of ports. It will only be a viable platform when it becomes a large percentage of the 8th generation, and so far a) it's yet to show itself as 8th gen and b) it's less then 2% of the 7th gen. If the rumours of PS4 and Nextbox dev kits are true, then these publishers probably know something that we don't.

If they're as comparatively high-powered at launch as PS3 and 360 were, then we're going to see the same kind of killing field for 3rd parties that 2007-2009 was, except with no super-easy Wii casual games to bail them out (no more high carnival games sales to bail out Take Two, for instance). Which'll make the slaughter that much worse.

Eh? I really don't get what you are trying to say here. And anyway, what's the point in comparing 2007-09 to today? That was the peak time for the global credit crisis so any comparisons are going to be pointless. 
Plus publishers were bailed out by Wii games? If you ignore Nintendo titles, the Wii was a really poor market for game sales for everyone other then Ubisoft. 

EA's best game shifted 3.84 million units, compared to BF3 on the 360 alone shifting 6.65 million units. The Wii didn't bail anyone other then Ubisoft out, and it's not like they had issues anyway (that I'm aware of). 



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Mazty on 07 January 2013
KungKras said:
Mazty said:
 


*facepalm*
Apple is the MAIN COMPETITOR TO SAMSUNG. Being able to screw your competition out of $1,000,000,000 seems a worthwhile move. Companies don't get moody - they are not humans. Why on earth are people humanising companies?

Well, because, the people who control those companies can be both moody and irrational.

Companies are not ran by one person. Companies also have stockholders to think about. Stop humanising companies; it's rediculous. 



sethnintendo on 07 January 2013
Train wreck said:
sethnintendo said:
Train wreck said:
sethnintendo said:
EA is right. When was the last time EA had a business drive? If they did then they would have posted a profit at some point in the past few years.

They did.  Last year.

With no nintendo help I might add.

For the entire year or just a quarter?


for fiscal year 12 (ended March 31) they made 76 million dollars.

Ah, well I am impressed then.  I didn't think there would be anything to stop the sinking ship.  Looks like they are making a lot of moves which I was semi aware of but since I've boycotted them over a decade my EA knowledge is usually on the low side.  Seems like they are making decent money off their F2P / recent online gaming offerings. I read this article while I was trying to find EA financial reports.  http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/09/14/electronic-arts-online-gaming/



KungKras on 07 January 2013
Mazty said:
KungKras said:
Mazty said:
 


*facepalm*
Apple is the MAIN COMPETITOR TO SAMSUNG. Being able to screw your competition out of $1,000,000,000 seems a worthwhile move. Companies don't get moody - they are not humans. Why on earth are people humanising companies?

Well, because, the people who control those companies can be both moody and irrational.

Companies are not ran by one person. Companies also have stockholders to think about. Stop humanising companies; it's rediculous. 

*ridiculous

That's why EA has to be dishonest to their stock holders. This has been observed, you can't deny it. The 3DS version of madden was insanely gimped, and guess what happened after that? Due to its low sales, EA never made another for 3DS. Same with Dead Space Extraction, they gimped it, and then used it as an excuse to not make core games for Wii. 

Also, if companies were so controlled by their investors and stock holders, Nintendo would make iPhone games by now.



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Mazty on 07 January 2013
KungKras said:
Mazty said:
KungKras said:
Mazty said:
 


*facepalm*
Apple is the MAIN COMPETITOR TO SAMSUNG. Being able to screw your competition out of $1,000,000,000 seems a worthwhile move. Companies don't get moody - they are not humans. Why on earth are people humanising companies?

Well, because, the people who control those companies can be both moody and irrational.

Companies are not ran by one person. Companies also have stockholders to think about. Stop humanising companies; it's rediculous. 

*ridiculous

That's why EA has to be dishonest to their stock holders. This has been observed, you can't deny it. The 3DS version of madden was insanely gimped, and guess what happened after that? Due to its low sales, EA never made another for 3DS. Same with Dead Space Extraction, they gimped it, and then used it as an excuse to not make core games for Wii. 

Also, if companies were so controlled by their investors and stock holders, Nintendo would make iPhone games by now.

What do you mean by "they gimped it"?

*facepalm*
Companies aren't controlled by investors; the board of directors have to appease the stockholders. Also making games for the iphone would not be as profitable as making a console as you can charge much more for the games, whilst getting a profit from the console itself. 



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KungKras on 07 January 2013
Mazty said:
KungKras said:
Mazty said:
KungKras said:
Mazty said:
 


*facepalm*
Apple is the MAIN COMPETITOR TO SAMSUNG. Being able to screw your competition out of $1,000,000,000 seems a worthwhile move. Companies don't get moody - they are not humans. Why on earth are people humanising companies?

Well, because, the people who control those companies can be both moody and irrational.

Companies are not ran by one person. Companies also have stockholders to think about. Stop humanising companies; it's rediculous. 

*ridiculous

That's why EA has to be dishonest to their stock holders. This has been observed, you can't deny it. The 3DS version of madden was insanely gimped, and guess what happened after that? Due to its low sales, EA never made another for 3DS. Same with Dead Space Extraction, they gimped it, and then used it as an excuse to not make core games for Wii. 

Also, if companies were so controlled by their investors and stock holders, Nintendo would make iPhone games by now.

What do you mean by "they gimped it"?

*facepalm*
Companies aren't controlled by investors; the board of directors have to appease the stockholders. Also making games for the iphone would not be as profitable as making a console as you can charge much more for the games, whilst getting a profit from the console itself. 

If it's not as profitable, then why are investors and stockholders constantly demanding Nintendo make games for iOS then?

Stockholders do not have absolute power over a company, period. Ad even if they did, there is nothing preventing the board of directors from being dishonest to them.



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melbye on 07 January 2013
Scisca said:
melbye said:
So much silly. Wii was a consequense of Gamecube selling poorly, a console were they bought Resident Evil-support, made Eternal Darkness, co-funded a Metal Gear remake and the so called "core" still rejected them. The fact that people actually thinks Nintendo should pay to get the same game that the other 3 are getting for "free" is moronic

That's not what happened, but it makes no point arguing with fanboys I guess. If you can't get your mind over what the world is like, then there is really no point talking.

 

As to Crysis, I've played Crysis 2 last month and had a blast. I also remember being totally in love with Far Cry  back in the day and enjoying the original Crysis, so no. It's not a bad game.

Are you actually going to argue that Gamecube's failure to sell when Nintendo tried to appeal to the so-called core had nothing to do with Nintendo trying for a different audience?



noname2200 on 07 January 2013

Over a hundred posts and still not a single "unprecedented support" crack?



Mad55 on 07 January 2013

That's pretty sad. Ea releases sub-par or overpriced iterations of their games to the wiiu and they don't sell. They have the chance to bring a product out day one for it and they won't.



osed125 on 07 January 2013

I liked Crysis 1 and hated Crysis 2, so this doesn't really concerned me. Either way it looks like EA is kinda pissed off because Nintendo didn't wanted to implement Origin on the Wii U, that could be one of the reasons this "business drive" didn't took off or maybe EA was expecting way too much coming from Nintendo (pretty much everything that wasn't development costs) and since this isn't a big franchise Nintendo decided to not do it. 

I guess this shows two things: 

1) The Wii U can run Crysis 3, because it wasn't a weaker hardware problem, which I'm pretty sure a lot of people still thought the Wii U couldn't run it. 

2) Nintendo is definitely looking for 3rd party support, this deal wasn't a success but maybe Nintendo is working with other 3rd party companies for their games. They're also probably looking for games that would actually make sense investing, like GTA5 for example.



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