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How will this battle end (Dec 30th-Jun 7th, vgchartz)?

PS3 will more than double WiiU sales 99 62.26%
 
PS3 will double WiiU sales 13 8.18%
 
S3 will sell ~50% more than WiiU 7 4.40%
 
PS3 and WiiU will sell the same (essentially) 10 6.29%
 
WiiU will sell 50% more than PS3 8 5.03%
 
WiiU will double PS3 sales 13 8.18%
 
Other 9 5.66%
 
Total:159
kowenicki said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
NintendoPie said:
Not unless Lego, Pikmin, and that other game releasing in Q1-ish have anything to say for it.
The Wii U should be able to keep up with the PS3. I'm not going to say sell better because then it won't due to my "luck."


Did you just say not  unless Lego & Pikmin have something to say about it?

 

so what kind of boost will sly and GOW give?


I think combined over the course of the first five months the PS3 and its dwindling sales will have a 475-625k (The gen is winding down, no one is expecting a million over that period of time because of those games) increase because of those Last of Us, GOW, Sly, Beyond, including GTA and various hot third parties that you cannot get your hands on without having a PS3 or 360. Its not an out of this world idea.



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@Pezus:  Can you put a chart in the OP to keep track of all this?  Update it regularly too.  PS3 outselling Wii U is a given, it's a more attractive deal right now - tons of games, lower prices, etc.  Same way PS2 outsold PS3 and 360 upon release.  I don't know that it'll double sales though, so we'll see.

leo-j said:
a $199 ps3 which is very likely for 2013 would allow the PS3 to consistently outsell Wii U well into the 2nd half of 2013.. the question is whether or not the announcement of a PS4 or next gen playstation would dwindle PS3 sales below those of Wii U's, and would nexgen announcements slow down WII u sales as well.. especially if the next xbox or the next ps end up making WII u look like a last gen machine

I think this is a reasonable post, up until the bolded.  I think Nintendo will have it's shit together by then.  I know it's what some of you are hoping for, but I don't think the Wii U is going to be Dreamcasted.  It doesn't look good now, but Nintendo has some big things coming.  They'll counter both launches with something huge.  (See the Trinity vs. Vita or Mario Kart Wii vs GTAIV)

Also, I think you guys are thinking best case scenario for PS4/Nextbox launches.  They never go smoothly.  We'll be having these doomed convos again when they launch.



DaRev said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
DaRev said:

man you are fast. I think thye will sell about the same.

Anyways, I think when Nintendo releases its games for 2013, it will warrant people picking up a new Wii U for the exclusives. Not sure we can say the same thing about PS3, (1) because I'm not sure what exclusives it has between now and E3, (2) its good holiday 2012 numbers will not continue (but I assume you can say the same about Wii U).

(not my best arguments above )

Before E3 this year?

Sly

God of War

The Last of Us

I'm sure there's more

Ok fair enough but, being a bit biased here for the sake of argument, PS3 elclusives don't sell very well and as a result don't really move systems. Case in point Resistance 3, Heavy Rain, LBP 2. Could be because of saturation of the market already with PS3s. Ultimately, Wii U has nowhere to go but up, but PS3 hs no where to go but down, after holiday 2012.

what are you talking about? LBP 2 sold 2.8 million. GoW 3 sold 5.2 million. littlebigplanet1 5 million. uncharted3 5.5 million. uncharted 2 6 million. uncharted1 4.5 million. gt5 9.2 million heavy rain 2 million. killzone3 2.4 million. killzone2 2.9 million. infamous2 1.5 million infamous 2.5 million. even resistance 3 is at 1.2. 



If there's a price cut to $199 for PS3 it will surge with all those exclusives coming out (NiNoKuni, Sly, GoW, Beyond, LoU, Puppeteer). I expect Destination Playstation to be the unveiling of the PS4 set for release this Fall. They haven't had one since 09 and it would give them their own venue to get people hyped for E3 and get the system announcement out of the way. With this should come a price drop which at $199 will be a big one (not in dollar amount but any time you go under an increment of 100 it's big, which is why $250 didn't help as much as $299 this gen). Last of Us and GoW are already getting pretty good pre-orders and Playstation Plus is gaining popularity rapidly. Destination Playstation is in late February so it's the perfect venue for these announcements.




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Mazty said:
NintendoPie said:
Mazty said:
NintendoPie said:

That's a very outlandish and untrue statement. I'm sorry, you're wrong, on all fronts.

No you're wrong on all fronts.

Seriously if you're going to make such a statement, at least give it some substance because you're not omniscient. Lego is a childs toy. Pikmin is an old Nintendo franchise. Not exactly CoD are they? 

I never said that these games were CoD. Dont put words in my mouth.

If you would have done your research then you would've found that Lego games perform quite well sales wise, especially on Nintendo consoles. That game alone could possibly push unit sales of the Wii U.

Now, Pikmin I don't think had ever been a real system seller, but Pikmin 3 seems to be getting quite a lot of hype for an "old Nintendo franchise." 

These two games (plus the others releasing around Q1 and Q2) will push Wii U sales. 

My point was never sales was it though? It was to do with attracting a wide audience. Lego games do not have a wide audience. The fact that they sell well on a casual console backs this up. 

It's amazing how you claim to be prophetic and know that these games WILL push Wii U sales. While you're at it, can you tell me next weeks lottery numbers?

If we're making predictions mine is that neither game will boost sales. Maybe Pikmin temporarily in Japan and maybe the US, but that's it. If NSMBU hasn't helped the console sell more then the 360 or the PS3, what are these lesser titles really going to do?


Umm :s.....It sells well but, becuase its sells well on the wii it lacks pulling power but even if that was true thats where it being sold on... So halo and gow on the 360 are worthless becuase shooters sell better on the 360? Ridulous statment



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kowenicki said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
kowenicki said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
NintendoPie said:
Not unless Lego, Pikmin, and that other game releasing in Q1-ish have anything to say for it.
The Wii U should be able to keep up with the PS3. I'm not going to say sell better because then it won't due to my "luck."


Did you just say not  unless Lego & Pikmin have something to say about it?

 

 

so what kind of boost will sly and GOW give?


I think combined over the course of the first five months the PS3 and its dwindling sales will have a 475-600k increase because of those Last of Us, GOW, Sly, Beyond, including GTA and various hot third parties that you cannot get your hands on without having a PS3 or 360. Its not an out of this world idea.

Beautiful.  Thank you.

So.

Which of those games specifically will give the boost?  GOW wont, sly wont, Beyond wont, Last of Us wont.    Japan will have some small boosts due to some Japan centric games.

So its down to GTA then, I'd say that will provide a modest boost of say 70k for 360 and PS3.

Where the hell are you getting half a million consoles boost from.  Seriously you have been very vocal and quite condescending in this thread so have the balls to put some numbers to games.  I just have. why cant you?

Your prediction essentially means that hardware will be almost flat for the first 5 months.  

You are so worng.

 

Now if we are talking about a significant price cut being thrown in then that could help.  Games alone?  Zero chance.

 


I never said that hardware will sell flat for the first five months. I think the PS3 will either sell on par or above last years first five months. PS3 never had such a selection of games from first to third party in the beginning of a year. March on its own will be a pretty good month leading up to May. The highest sales will be achieved in march though.



kowenicki said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
kowenicki said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
kowenicki said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
NintendoPie said:
Not unless Lego, Pikmin, and that other game releasing in Q1-ish have anything to say for it.
The Wii U should be able to keep up with the PS3. I'm not going to say sell better because then it won't due to my "luck."


Did you just say not  unless Lego & Pikmin have something to say about it?

 

 

so what kind of boost will sly and GOW give?


I think combined over the course of the first five months the PS3 and its dwindling sales will have a 475-600k increase because of those Last of Us, GOW, Sly, Beyond, including GTA and various hot third parties that you cannot get your hands on without having a PS3 or 360. Its not an out of this world idea.

Beautiful.  Thank you.

So.

Which of those games specifically will give the boost?  GOW wont, sly wont, Beyond wont, Last of Us wont.    Japan will have some small boosts due to some Japan centric games.

So its down to GTA then, I'd say that will provide a modest boost of say 70k for 360 and PS3.

Where the hell are you getting half a million consoles boost from.  Seriously you have been very vocal and quite condescending in this thread so have the balls to put some numbers to games.  I just have. why cant you?

Your prediction essentially means that hardware will be almost flat for the first 5 months.  

You are so worng.

 

Now if we are talking about a significant price cut being thrown in then that could help.  Games alone?  Zero chance.

 


I never said that hardware will sell flat for the first five months. I think the PS3 will either sell on par or above last years first five months. PS3 never had such a selection of games from first to third party in the beginning of a year. March on its own will be a pretty good month leading up to May. The highest sales will be achieved in march though.


so you think sales will be up Jan to May compared to last year?

wow.


On par or above. It will fluctuate but March will cause a rise in sales and the last two months will sell better than the first two. Sony sold decent last year with barely any sellable exclusives to their name. Pay attention.



This late in the generation, one thing I think people get the wrong way round is the fact that games don't necessarily increase hardware sales above and beyond the previous "good years", but prevents it from dropping too far.

One thing both Sony and MS have been very good at this generation, is bringing in new products/games to prevent sales from dropping quicker than they might have been. Sony have always been strong bringing out new consoles and lots of games in Jan-March while, MS did really well in the USA with price cuts/slim and Kinect (without Kinect and amazing bundles Sony would probably have caught up MS by now) - but thats what business is about, keeping your product selling and not dropping off.

So I think the PS3 will sell at least 30%-45% more than the Wii-U over the next few months, because its strong games line up will prevent a bigger drop than the other consoles. Though I do think Sony has a bit of a battle in Japan at the moment, so this could be a key battle ground for this gap compared to Nintendo.



kowenicki said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
kowenicki said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
kowenicki said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
kowenicki said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
NintendoPie said:
Not unless Lego, Pikmin, and that other game releasing in Q1-ish have anything to say for it.
The Wii U should be able to keep up with the PS3. I'm not going to say sell better because then it won't due to my "luck."


Did you just say not  unless Lego & Pikmin have something to say about it?

 

 

so what kind of boost will sly and GOW give?


I think combined over the course of the first five months the PS3 and its dwindling sales will have a 475-600k increase because of those Last of Us, GOW, Sly, Beyond, including GTA and various hot third parties that you cannot get your hands on without having a PS3 or 360. Its not an out of this world idea.

Beautiful.  Thank you.

So.

Which of those games specifically will give the boost?  GOW wont, sly wont, Beyond wont, Last of Us wont.    Japan will have some small boosts due to some Japan centric games.

So its down to GTA then, I'd say that will provide a modest boost of say 70k for 360 and PS3.

Where the hell are you getting half a million consoles boost from.  Seriously you have been very vocal and quite condescending in this thread so have the balls to put some numbers to games.  I just have. why cant you?

Your prediction essentially means that hardware will be almost flat for the first 5 months.  

You are so worng.

 

Now if we are talking about a significant price cut being thrown in then that could help.  Games alone?  Zero chance.

 


I never said that hardware will sell flat for the first five months. I think the PS3 will either sell on par or above last years first five months. PS3 never had such a selection of games from first to third party in the beginning of a year. March on its own will be a pretty good month leading up to May. The highest sales will be achieved in march though.


so you think sales will be up Jan to May compared to last year?

wow.


On par or above. It will fluctuate but March will cause a rise in sales and the last two months will sell better than the first two. Sony sold decent last year with barely any sellable exclusives to their name. Pay attention.

Oh I'm paying attention.  You will be wrong. 

 


Did I say my prediction was absolute oh arrogant one? I just a prediction. We humans are fallible beings, but your skepticism has caused me to feel like being in an entertaining mood.



MakeAmazing said:
This late in the generation, one thing I think people get the wrong way round is the fact that games don't necessarily increase hardware sales above and beyond the previous "good years", but prevents it from dropping too far.

One thing both Sony and MS have been very good at this generation, is bringing in new products/games to prevent sales from dropping quicker than they might have been. Sony have always been strong bringing out new consoles and lots of games in Jan-March while, MS did really well in the USA with price cuts/slim and Kinect (without Kinect and amazing bundles Sony would probably have caught up MS by now) - but thats what business is about, keeping your product selling and not dropping off.

So I think the PS3 will sell at least 30%-45% more than the Wii-U over the next few months, because its strong games line up will prevent a bigger drop than the other consoles. Though I do think Sony has a bit of a battle in Japan at the moment, so this could be a key battle ground for this gap compared to Nintendo.


Sonys apology letter needs to be written to Japan next gen. They've left them hanging and completely focused on the west. Japanese projects need to be well funded.