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GhaudePhaede010 on 24 December 2012
kowenicki said:
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the2real4mafol said:
The only system that was dominating was 3DS, Xbox 360 was barely above PS3 , so it wasn't dominating really

Though, you could say the PS3 dominated the 360...for the entire year.  It's going to end up ~1.2M-1.3M above the 360 this year.


Grrrr that word again.

outsold does not = domination. 

Very true.  But, when you outsell your competition by over 1.2M for just one year, then yea, that's domination. 


No. It's not.  Domination would be controlling the market a la PS2. Nothing has come within the vicinity of domination. PS3 sure hasn't dominated the 360 anywhere other than Japan. 

are you kidding. ps3's been dominating 360 all year round worldwide.


DOMINATION

43% marketshare v 38%.  Yep... that obliteration right there.  I say again, go look the word up.  Doniation would result in controlling the market, dictating software releases, getting massiuve 3rd party support.  It just hasnt happened this gen.

Seriosly, nothing has dominated anywhere since the PS2... perhaps the 3DS will achieve it over the Vita but nothing else will that is currenty selling.


The DS, I am pretty sure it is safe to say, dominated.

Definition of console from dictionary(.)com: "an electronic device for playing video games, usually requiring connection to a television."

A hand held gaming device is indeed, a console.



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SunofKratos on 24 December 2012

 question to you guys. If Sony managed to sell 90-100 m PS3 lifetime than its a failure or what? Its a failure because it dont sell PS2 numbers.

So if Wii U only sell 60 Million units is that also a failure because it dont sell as much as The Wii?

Get real people no console will ever achieve PS2 numbers again. (its very unlikely).

So calling a 70-100M selling consoel a failure is a little bit ridiculus. Isnt it?



SOLIDSNAKE08 on 24 December 2012
SunofKratos said:
 question to you guys. If Sony managed to sell 90-100 m PS3 lifetime than its a failure or what? Its a failure because it dont sell PS2 numbers.

So if Wii U only sell 60 Million units is that also a failure because it dont sell as much as The Wii?

Get real people no console will ever achieve PS2 numbers again. (its very unlikely).

So calling a 70-100M selling consoel a failure is a little bit ridiculus. Isnt it?


its now the only way to make ps3 a failure. by comparing it to the ps2.



AlphaCielago on 24 December 2012

@SunofKratos I would not call PS3 with those numbers, but neither would I call the PS3 a failure with the numbers it has now.
The Wii U would neither be a failure as there have been consoles selling worse, like for example the rest of the Nintendo home consoles, except for the NES and Wii, the Xbox and others
I agree with you in that saying 70-100million is a failure, it is quite ridiculous.
The term failured should instead be swapped with underperformed.



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osed125 on 24 December 2012
SunofKratos said:
 question to you guys. If Sony managed to sell 90-100 m PS3 lifetime than its a failure or what? Its a failure because it dont sell PS2 numbers.

So if Wii U only sell 60 Million units is that also a failure because it dont sell as much as The Wii?

Get real people no console will ever achieve PS2 numbers again. (its very unlikely).

So calling a 70-100M selling consoel a failure is a little bit ridiculus. Isnt it?

I guess that depends on Sony's point of view. We also need to take in mind that the PS3 lost so much money at the beginning of the gen that Sony might never recover from it. Even if the PS3 ends up selling 100m+ units if Sony doesn't recover (or even break even) the lost money it might be a failure. This all from a business perspective mind you.



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Aura7541 on 24 December 2012
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No... It's still alarming.  It proves the Vita is done, it's bust, over, finished.  I was right all along.  

Uh, one week of holiday sales proves that? Did you say the same about PS3 back in 2006/7?

No, I didn't. Did you?

Obviously I did not. But I wonder why one week here says it all, while it didn't for PS3 back then. What did they have to do? They had to cut the price and release big games. They did that and it all worked out. I don't expect PS3-level sales from Vita, but they should be able to increase sales nicely with a price cut and big games like a proper GT, another good Uncharted etc.


One week? It's been out for almost a year. It's had over a year in Japan.

it will never have big sales, it won't get 40% of the PSP sales lifetime. It's a disaster. 

It's not a disaster nor is it a success. I am going to reserve judgement until the Vita has been around for quite a while (~3 years or so) for a much bigger picture. I suggest that you take your own advice rather than making super premature predictions. 



MDMAlliance on 24 December 2012
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3DS will be the best selling Console this year and Next year aswell.

Then its up to new Xbox to compete with Nintendo domination in the market.


1. 3ds isn't a console

2. Up to the next xbox to dominate the market? doesn't sony have a chance at all?


1. Yes it is.

1. No, it isn't.  A console is a device that connects to a TV, can be set on the floor, on the TV, or in an entertainment system. 

The 3DS is a gaming system, which all electronic gaming devices fall under.  The specific sub-category that it falls within is the hand-held category.


It is.  A video game console does NOT need to connect to a TV, and ANYTHING can be set on the floor and a handheld can be set on a TV, it can be set ANYWHERE.  

There are no "subscetions" here.  A video game console needs a way to be displayed, that's why some definitions say "TV" (but it can also be the screen on the handheld device).  It also has to be dedicated to video gaming as well, which the 3DS is.  I think you're confused with what people THINK the definition is.  



thismeintiel on 24 December 2012
the2real4mafol said:
thismeintiel said:
the2real4mafol said:
The only system that was dominating was 3DS, Xbox 360 was barely above PS3 , so it wasn't dominating really

Though, you could say the PS3 dominated the 360...for the entire year.  It's going to end up ~1.2M-1.3M above the 360 this year.

I didn't realise it kept it's lead. Very good. PS3 more dominates in one region. But what i can say, is PS3 is definately dominating Wii

I'd say it also dominates EU, too.  It has over a 5M gap there and it will probably end up with a gap of 8M when all is said and done.  Actually, there are 3 things I completely forgot to mention as to why this is even more impressive.  One, 360 had a $50 price cut in its best region (America), to all of its SKUs, except the $199 one.  Two, while it didn't receive an official price cut, the $199 SKU was marked down to $149 for Black Friday weekend.  And most imprtantly, three, it saw the launch of another installment to its largest exclusive franchise this year, as well.  PS3, on the other hand, had no HUGE exclusives launch this year.



 

SunofKratos on 25 December 2012

I would also say in terms of home console sales no company has really dominated this gen. Heck the x Box 360 and PS3 will come close to Wii lifetime sells. So i really cant see the domination here.

Well the handheld market is of course another question. In the handheld area nintendo truly dominate.

In the end for us gamers its the best when no company really dominates. Domination means controlling the market and thats always a bad thing. And i dont think i need to tell you all why.