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disolitude on 26 December 2012
dahuman said:
disolitude said:
For everyone reading this thread and not knowing whats going on, here is something to keep in mind.

People that are anti Windows 8 in every thread:
dallas - hates Microsoft in general
ArnoldRimmer
HappySqurriel
Mummelmann

People that defend Windows 8 in every thread:
selnor
kowenicki
disolitude(myself)
man-bear-pig

Something to keep in mind...


You can add me to the anti list, since I don't have a 4th screen that's touch based like you do.

I just dont get you people who are on a cursade to hate windows 8.

All you need to do is install Classic shell or one of 5 free start menu programs and never deal with metro interface if you hate it that much.  Sure, the writing is on the wall for the start menu and way of using a desktop, but at least you dont have to change your habbits yet  and can reap the benefits of what windows 8 has to offer.

Otherwise I disabled my touch screen and am using the Logitech 650 touchpad with 3 monitors...Windows 8 works even better like that on a desktop for me.



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dahuman on 26 December 2012
Jazz2K said:
dahuman said:
Microsoft in trying to be more like Apple, completely fucked up on the key part that OSX is still just OSX and iOS is just iOS. They made it so Windows 8 is a touch based OS instead of giving people the option of the older style GUI and gave us a gimped version of the desktop GUI with it that works like shit unless you spend the time to mod it. I have no idea how they even came to that conclusion in which that it might be a good idea, so I'm just going to say that Steve Ballmer is a fucking retard and he needs to GTFO of MS. I'm looking forward to Windows 9 where they fix the dumb shit decisions, if not, I'd be a sad sad person.


Did you know that you could just minimize the metro UI and then it takes you back to Windows 7? You seem to talk a lot but not knowing much.


uh, no, you can't get off that by default, you can click on the desktop app that takes you to a shit version, you'd need to mod it, and they should have added that as a default feature.



dahuman on 26 December 2012
disolitude said:
dahuman said:
disolitude said:
For everyone reading this thread and not knowing whats going on, here is something to keep in mind.

People that are anti Windows 8 in every thread:
dallas - hates Microsoft in general
ArnoldRimmer
HappySqurriel
Mummelmann

People that defend Windows 8 in every thread:
selnor
kowenicki
disolitude(myself)
man-bear-pig

Something to keep in mind...


You can add me to the anti list, since I don't have a 4th screen that's touch based like you do.

I just dont get you people who are on a cursade to hate windows 8.

All you need to do is install Classic shell or one of 5 free start menu programs and never deal with metro interface if you hate it that much.  Sure, the writing is on the wall for the start menu and way of using a desktop, but at least you dont have to change your habbits yet  and can reap the benefits of what windows 8 has to offer.

Otherwise I disabled my touch screen and am using the Logitech 650 touchpad with 3 monitors...Windows 8 works even better like that on a desktop for me.


I'm aware, but I'm not on a crusade like you are saying. Not to mention since I hate it so much, I don't need to get it at all because it's a consumer choice :P /dance



Chark on 26 December 2012
Naraku_Diabolos said:


You do realize that you can (kind of) turn Metro off, right? I have done that and I'm always in the desktop mode. I even use a program called Classic Shell and I have the Start (Windows Pearl from Win7) on the bottom left corner of my laptop screen. So really, it is not a big deal. I'd say my computer runs much better on Win8. Even my online game runs better.


Not really, since I've only been able to use it in its original state. So it throws you back and forth to metro. Maybe I shouldn't be too worried about taking advantage of any towers I find that come with Windows 8. I'm still not a fan of Microsoft looking to close their system. If I wasn't I would just get a Mac, and if Microsoft wants to go that route that's probably what I will do as much as that thought upsets me, because I can't stay behind and use old windows OS forever. Though if Windows 7 stays relevant for a while I can do that and if the market prefers 7 over 8 it might redirect Microsoft.

I need to stop using XP at least.



Before the PS3 everyone was nice to me :(

thranx on 26 December 2012
Chark said:
Naraku_Diabolos said:


You do realize that you can (kind of) turn Metro off, right? I have done that and I'm always in the desktop mode. I even use a program called Classic Shell and I have the Start (Windows Pearl from Win7) on the bottom left corner of my laptop screen. So really, it is not a big deal. I'd say my computer runs much better on Win8. Even my online game runs better.


Not really, since I've only been able to use it in its original state. So it throws you back and forth to metro. Maybe I shouldn't be too worried about taking advantage of any towers I find that come with Windows 8. I'm still not a fan of Microsoft looking to close their system. If I wasn't I would just get a Mac, and if Microsoft wants to go that route that's probably what I will do as much as that thought upsets me, because I can't stay behind and use old windows OS forever. Though if Windows 7 stays relevant for a while I can do that and if the market prefers 7 over 8 it might redirect Microsoft.

I need to stop using XP at least.


You can still buy programs for windows 8 as normal, just not for the metro interface(that is a closed sytem) so if you dont like the metro interface anyways than its no different from 7 except its faster. I really dont see the need for compliants. if anyone really doesn't like metro interface than they can get rid of it. if they dont like a closed sytem they dont have to use that part. its faster than 7 too.



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Mummelmann on 26 December 2012
disolitude said:
For everyone reading this thread and not knowing whats going on, here is something to keep in mind.

People that are anti Windows 8 in every thread:
dallas - hates Microsoft in general
ArnoldRimmer
HappySqurriel
Mummelmann

People that defend Windows 8 in every thread:
selnor
kowenicki
disolitude(myself)
man-bear-pig

Something to keep in mind...

So, I hate Micorsoft in general because I'm not a fan of Winows 8 and the fact that it takes its cues from Apples and tablets/smartphones? I love Windows 7, how can that be? I hated Vista as well, it was simply a poor OS, memory consumption, install size (yes, Win 7 also has a ridiculous install size but HDD's are a whole lot bigger on average now), poor performance, hardware usage limitations and stability issues.

I also liked Windows XP but did not like Windows 2000. As for MS as a company; I own a 360 and I use and love Windows 7 for all my gaming purposes, that doesn't mean I have to adore everything the entire company does. All companies have their drawbacks and faults, MS is no better or worse than any of them. I don't know where people get this notion that if you own a 360, you have to defend and praise every single move by the company behind it and never question a single decision they make. Same goes for Sony and Nintendo.

Bottom line; I do not like Windows 8 and like even less then fact that MS might be forcing me to upgrade by making it practically impossible to game on Win 7 only in the near future, however, not liking Windows 8 does not equal hating Microsoft as a company.

How stupid would that be for a PC gamer, when there would be no PC gaming in its current form without MS? I figured you'd know better.



thranx on 26 December 2012
Mummelmann said:
disolitude said:
For everyone reading this thread and not knowing whats going on, here is something to keep in mind.

People that are anti Windows 8 in every thread:
dallas - hates Microsoft in general
ArnoldRimmer
HappySqurriel
Mummelmann

People that defend Windows 8 in every thread:
selnor
kowenicki
disolitude(myself)
man-bear-pig

Something to keep in mind...

So, I hate Micorsoft in general because I'm not a fan of Winows 8 and the fact that it takes its cues from Apples and tablets/smartphones? I love Windows 7, how can that be? I hated Vista as well, it was simply a poor OS, memory consumption, install size (yes, Win 7 also has a ridiculous install size but HDD's are a whole lot bigger on average now), poor performance, hardware usage limitations and stability issues.

I also liked Windows XP but did not like Windows 2000. As for MS as a company; I own a 360 and I use and love Windows 7 for all my gaming purposes, that doesn't mean I have to adore everything the entire company does. All companies have their drawbacks and faults, MS is no better or worse than any of them. I don't know where people get this notion that if you own a 360, you have to defend and praise every single move by the company behind it and never question a single decision they make. Same goes for Sony and Nintendo.

Bottom line; I do not like Windows 8 and like even less then fact that MS might be forcing me to upgrade by making it practically impossible to game on Win 7 only in the near future, however, not liking Windows 8 does not equal hating Microsoft as a company.

How stupid would that be for a PC gamer, when there would be no PC gaming in its current form without MS? I figured you'd know better.

I think he meant just dallas generally hates ms, and the rest of you were anti windows 8. I could be wrong though



Soleron on 26 December 2012
Jazz2K said:
dahuman said:
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Did you know that you could just minimize the metro UI and then it takes you back to Windows 7? You seem to talk a lot but not knowing much.

Is it possible to use the Win7 part without knowing the Win8 part existed? I thought they made you use it.



dallas on 26 December 2012
Darth Tigris said:
dallas said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
but they still made profit right?


Yeah, like I've said previously, Microsoft has built up an enormous moat from its past successes, but you can't just do that anymore.  Companies need growth and innovation.  You're either growing or stagnating over time, and it looks like this company is doing the latter.

So what do you think Microsoft has done this year with Windows 8, Surface and Windows Phone 8?  With Office Web Apps, Skydrive and Xbox Music?

The response from tech bloggers and vocal people?  "It's too different looking, I want the desktop and start menu, Surface isn't a laptop, it doesn't have 400k apps at launch, MS gets viruses, I'll just stick with iOS, Android and W7 because I DON'T WANT GROWTH AND INNOVATION" etc, etc, etc ...

Microsoft is forcing potty training right now.  Many want to still poop in and pee in their diapers but MS knows where the future is and is willing to go through this period where people will fight tooth and nail to stay in diapers for the sake of getting to that future.  

For the record, though, I still haven't upgraded.  I've never upgraded an OS, just bought new computers.  As people do that, sales will increase.  But it sure makes great headlines now, right?  : |

You seem to be trying to fault me for lack of reasoning, but notice that I said that companies need both innovation AND growth.  It has very little of the latter.



dallas on 26 December 2012
MoHasanie said:
Windows 8 will do fine. Of course it will sells loads, but Windows 7 is still only 3 years old so I'd expect Windows 8 sales to jump around next year. Besides, why does Microsoft even need to advertise Windows 8? Sales will still be huge even with little promotion.
Also, why does Microsoft advertise Internet Explorer? I realize a lot less people are using it, but what's the point of advertising it so much? Its not like they make more profit when more people use it, right?


The browser funnels users into services that consumers pay for, such as bing, which msft gets advertising money for.  Also, msft has to advertise for Windows as well, bc users of windows will use what is actually microsofts biggest cash cow, MS Office.