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dallas said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
but they still made profit right?


Yeah, like I've said previously, Microsoft has built up an enormous moat from its past successes, but you can't just do that anymore.  Companies need growth and innovation.  You're either growing or stagnating over time, and it looks like this company is doing the latter.

Being late to market doesn't help.  Microsoft now has to fight like mad to gain marketshare in the tablet market, which is now on its way of eating up the laptop market, and how people do computing personally.  Tablets with decent keyboards are the future. 

And Windows 8 is really cool.  I was in a Microsoft showroom (like an Apple store, but shows off Microsoft instead) near where I am, and they have cool stuff.  But, the buzz is now Android and iOS, so that is an issue Microsoft faces.  They have two other competitors at this point where computer is going.  And sometimes, no amount of marketing spent will fix that.



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kowenicki said:
Branko2166 said:
kowenicki said:
dallas said:
The numbers speak for themselves.

I report, you decide.


No they dont.  They arent the full picture, they are over a short period and they are for one market.  Come back to me 12 months from release.  We can then see how Windows and Apple have further cornered their respective markets and how Google is still nowhere to be seen.

I can understand you being an enthusiastic supporter of all things Microsoft but are you really going to support the approach that Microsoft has taken with Windows 8 at least when it comes to the desktop versions?? I am fully aware of the fact that they hold the preeminent position in OS marketshare and that they are a superb software company but from time to time they make big mistakes and Windows 8 is a prime example of one. I know more than a few people in the IT support industry and the feedback for it has been overwhelmingly negative.

Now don't get me wrong for I have great respect for Microsoft and Windows 7 is the best operating system I have ever used but we should recognise Windows 8 for what it is. Suitable for touch devices but utterly bad for business and private desktop use alike. Consequently adoption will be slow and I'm confident the majority of users will stick with Windows 7 until Microsoft releases a proper successor to the superb OS that Windows 7 is.

 

 

Im responding to your post on my macbookpro, my ipad is charging.

I didn't say I loved Windows8.  I have used it and I dont see the problem.  Its a different UI, once people get used to it then I dont see the problem.  MS are being brave and taking a different direction.  Its MS, they are dammed if they do and dammed if they dont.  People still know the old desktop exists right? 

Thanks for replying and clarifying your statement. I agree that Windows 8 works but I believe that Microsoft went backwards in the desktop space. The problem is the interface more than anything else as you yourself have pointed out. People may well get used to it over time however if given a choice between 7 and 8 I think almost anyone that's remotely informed will stick with Win 7.

A touch interface is simply not practical for a desktop and it's even more of a problem at work where you need an efficient dedicated desktop OS not one that's built to run like an app within a touch based OS.

I think this will hurt Microsoft even more with their Business customers than home users and predict that Microsoft will fix this mistake when they release Windows 8s successor.

Like I said earlier this is a great OS for touch devices but Microsoft made a mistake in thinking they could force a touch based OS onto desktop consumers.

 

 





 

 

Ballmer needs to be replaced with someone that is an actual visionary before Apple and Google do serious damage to the company..



Legend11 said:
Ballmer needs to be replaced with someone that is an actual visionary before Apple and Google do serious damage to the company..


I like the direction ms is going. they are unifying all of their sytems and streamlining their services.



I actually like windows 8. I recently bought a laptop with one and was I was a little disgusted at the thought of having it initially. But to my amazement, it works really well for me. I particularly like the massive speed difference between the two. Shut down is faster and reboot is faster. The start screen search function is improved and pinning to the start screen is very welcome. Took me less than an hour to master it.

Overall, I'm not getting the criticisms. It works well for me but what works well for me doesn't work well for everyone else I guess.



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I hate windows but Windows 7 looks and is far superior to Windows 8
Won't change anytime soon



Although Windows 8 is not largely successful right now, it was definitely a good business decision to start catering to tablets. I was once very skeptical of tablets, but I just recently took the plunge and ordered a hybrid tablet/pc for almost $900. Like me, many consumers are already jumping towards the tablet market which is actually making the pc market smaller. Microsoft needed to do get into tablets to not fall behind. However, for desktops, windows 8 is a bit of a step backwards in some areas. They could have handled it better.





bertlsenix said:
I hate windows but Windows 7 looks and is far superior to Windows 8
Won't change anytime soon


Win 8 contains Win 7 in it.. and Win 8 is superior as it has faster booting time as well as better RAM management.. so programs are faster.

Get your facts right.



ROFL.

Next xmas we will be laughing at these articles.



HappySqurriel said:
I don't think it has to do with Microsoft releasing a product too quickly, I think it is that the product is built around a flawed concept ...

In most cases, if you wanted to build an operating system that worked well for a desktop computer, videogame console and mobile device you would develop a very strong kernel and then develop a GUI for each of the devices to ensure the best user experience possible with each device. Unfortunately, Microsoft sees the UI and many programs as being part of the operating system core and when they developed a cross-platform OS you end up with a user experience that is bad across all devices.


...using up almost 16GB of a Tablets memory



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’