kanageddaamen said:
Allfreedom99 said:
Mnementh said: What? Why does it defy logic to say some basic physical laws existed all the time?
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What are laws? They establish a certain process of order. How then can a law that dictates a process of order exist without the intelligence to establish it?
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Why evidence is there that a process of order has to be established by something intelligent? Your argument is circular:
1.) An intelligence created the process of order of the universe. 2.) The universe follows a process of order 3.) The universe was created by something intelligent
Why is it easier to believe that a magical invisible man has existed forever, but the nature of the cosmos, something observable and around you, has not
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It is not some "invisible man" that I would liken the Creator to as if he is some old aged guy with a beard having a good time watching what happens on earth while sitting back eating popcorn. I liken God to a omnipotent being who is also Omnipresent.
Science uses the bases of observation. I would ask the same question of you. Why when you look around you seeing us as complex living organisms, our solar system, air, gravity, the vast deep universe with laws that all work together establishing order do you not see it as an amazing creation by a vastly intelligent Omniscient creator? We are here alive as a product of something.
Products are a result of an intelligent influence. When we look at solar systems, galaxies, our bodies we see order, purpose, and enginuity. How, then can you look at it and say that its all just the reslut of a random happens chance that the coding for everythign we see occuring now was all directly written in the very beginnings of the universe without any intelligent influence whatsover?
That is why in the realm of science it defies logic.