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goddog on 27 November 2012
superchunk said:
leo-j said:

I don't recall, but a lot of users(maybe you included) said that HD console sales would be down significantly after the WII u launched because it was nexgen.......

and PS2 destroyed everything for two years after everything launched due to the fact the PS2 was $129/$99 and still getting high quality AA/AAA ip

 

I mean Wii was $89.99 for black friday.. and sold 300K

I'd like you to find those posts, because I never said PS360's decline was or would be due to WiiU or anything else but the fact that this gen is ending and they are down YOY in double digits already.

Sure 700k is nice, but last year it was 1m. That's a ~30% drop. Part is obviously a gen ending and part might be related to WiiU or 3DS or Apple or a sale on Oreos. Wii was also down due to gen ending and frankly, the Wii being saturated in the market with no new content at all.

Anyone's point that this is some sort of victory for MS is very wrong. Facts are 360 and PS3 are down, significantly, YOY. The gen is over. By this time next year, WiiU will be in 10 million sold range and neXtBox/PS4 will be on shelves.

EDIT: one more note, PS360 were heavily adverstized in EVERY black friday ad. Did you see any WiiU ads?

on advertising i received a one to one on WiiU and 360 ads, i cannot recall getting any PS3 ads most of the 360 adds were for the new bundle and the 50 bucks off, the WiiU ads were more hey there is a new console, from amazon and gamestop mainly. note i do not watch tv outside of football games anymore.

and while i do not consider it a victory its still pretty damn good sales considering the price should be down to about 149 now for a 360 with an hdd being able to hold sales up this year at 199 means they may give it a go one more year, release the set top box in-between next year and a full console the year after a few places have rumored to a two prong microsoft move next generation with a low end option aimed at media consumption more then gaming and a true 360 successor later 

 

personally i feel the two pronged option will only confuse some buyers and dilute the brand name, i also feel MS has been destroying the 360 brand for the last two sub par GUI updates... this years should have been what we saw last year and its still has many usability problems. I feel like MS is sacrificing usability in the name of uniformity and hoping the can force it across all platforms regardless of if it makes sense how its being used or if it slows users down.... and as an added benefit drive up ad revenue 



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Dmick90 on 27 November 2012
S.T.A.G.E. said:
kowenicki said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
kowenicki said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

The only two months of the year Microsoft really cares about. No surprise to see the 360 selling well during the holidays in America. Microsoft has nothing left in the tank software wise for 2013. All thats left in Gears in first quarter and thats it.


And a massive back catalogue of sensational games, new adopters kinda like that. 


Come on...you know Halo 4 had something to do with it. Last year it was Kinect and this year its Halo, be at peace with it. Microsoft knows they dont have much so they properly place the games where the largest amount of numbers will come in. Its common sense, but kudos to them for having it. The next Gears is set for Q1 so you know they are on their way out. Microsoft wouldnt in their right mind launch Gears anytime but forth quarter otherwise. 

That want really my point, I was merely saying that new buyers of consoles don't look just at new games. They are NEW adopters, they are buying into a whole back catalogue. Plenty of sales for 360 in the US next year and especially when a deep and official price cut comes.


Come on, admit it, Microsoft has two games that are console sellers, but theres is only one Halo and its in their posession. Microsoft wont drop price until september. Thats the only time of the year they see fit to cut price and that will probably be because there will be no more new games and they will be shipping out for a totally new gen. Sales have given them no incentive to drop price. If Microsoft was to drop price they should've done it two years ago. They've only truly dropped $100 since they launched the 360. That and they've more than profited off of the dumbasses who buy the 4GB and are forced to hand Microsoft an extra thirty dollars for the 320 GB HD. They've also played it very smart because they should've dropped price in 2011 and the Kinect bundle destroyed all during Black Friday. Microsoft can bundle their consoles and there would be no legit reason to drop the price of the console because of consumer reaction. They are in profit heaven right now. ;)

The PS3 only has two games that are system sellers! Whatever Naughty Dog churns out and Gran Turismo. They rely too heavily on third party support to carry the system. Hate to break it to you but Playstation All Stars Battle Royale (Smash Bros Rip Off) isn't going to save their butts. Sony's blockbuster games pale in comparison to Microsoft's blockbuster offerings in terms of system sellers. Next year Microsoft will probably be rolling out a slimmer Xbox 360 with price cuts and launching the new Xbox 720. With two Xboxs they can still rake in big profits from the 360 and use that to break even on the loss of the new 720. That is going to thwart PS3 sales and Sony will be cornered and frantically rushing out the PS4. Thats is my prediction.



retroking1981 on 27 November 2012

What did the PS2 sell on BF in its 7th year?



superchunk on 27 November 2012
goddog said:

on advertising i received a one to one on WiiU and 360 ads, i cannot recall getting any PS3 ads most of the 360 adds were for the new bundle and the 50 bucks off, the WiiU ads were more hey there is a new console, from amazon and gamestop mainly. note i do not watch tv outside of football games anymore.

and while i do not consider it a victory its still pretty damn good sales considering the price should be down to about 149 now for a 360 with an hdd being able to hold sales up this year at 199 means they may give it a go one more year, release the set top box in-between next year and a full console the year after a few places have rumored to a two prong microsoft move next generation with a low end option aimed at media consumption more then gaming and a true 360 successor later 

personally i feel the two pronged option will only confuse some buyers and dilute the brand name, i also feel MS has been destroying the 360 brand for the last two sub par GUI updates... this years should have been what we saw last year and its still has many usability problems. I feel like MS is sacrificing usability in the name of uniformity and hoping the can force it across all platforms regardless of if it makes sense how its being used or if it slows users down.... and as an added benefit drive up ad revenue 


ads: I was referring to the black friday print ads. I extensively research this... WiiU had zero. I know AFTER BF I also received a few emails from toys r us regarding WiiU being a new console, but that was it. One email. Amazon didn't advertise WiiU because it isnt' even carrying it... at least not in US. I get Gamestops's emails and I don't remember seeing it, but truthfully I didn't really read the email much.

360's successor will be out next year, end of story. Sales are down well over double digits year over year and there were significant bundling plus a $50 price drop this holiday accross the board and a ton of advertising from EVERY retailer and MS themselves. (same goes for PS3 really)



sully1311 on 27 November 2012

WOW that is MASSSSIIIVEEEE!!! Amazing sales!



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Adinnieken on 27 November 2012
pezus said:
D-Joe said:
pezus said:

Checked the OP and you're right, but Cyrus wasn't right. It's only missing Saturday 24th sales.

Yup

Btw NPD nov 2012 will be Oct 28~Nov 24 or Dec 1?


I'm not sure. Let's wait for ethomaz, the expert

Don't say that!  You say that and he'll end up getting a big head and think he's the expert of everything.



VGKing on 27 November 2012

Pretty impressive. 360 > Wii + Wii U
Xbox 360 could easily wait another holiday before releasing the next Xbox.

Can't wait for the Sony data.



yo_john117 on 27 November 2012

Well that is certainly higher than I expected. 

But I'm more excitied about the Halo 4 numbers (I shouldn't be, but I am). Hopefully it can pull off a 400-500k week.



Rafux on 27 November 2012

Sony not shouting their numbers from the rooftops, feels bad man.



Lostplanet22 on 27 November 2012
pezus said:
Lostplanet22 said:
pezus said:
Lostplanet22 said:
pezus said:
Lostplanet22 said:
The gap between Wii and X360 on the US market is getting very small =p.

3.25m after this week. Will overtake it next holiday at the latest I'm sure. I wonder if it will be a victory worth celebrating though?


Being first in the biggest market means nothing?

I'm asking you. I didn't give my answer. Now that I think you've answered with a yes, it will be curious to watch how you react in the future when a certain event happens. Won't name it so I won't get this thread off track, but know I am watching your every move from now on

Like what? 

When the PS3 overtakes 360 WW

Yeah but does not mean much as being first in the biggest market.   Being second in something never makes a good slogan...