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Atheist/Agnostic 64 50.00%
 
Christian 46 35.94%
 
Satanist 11 8.59%
 
After this thread not sure 7 5.47%
 
Total:128
TheEvilBanana said:
Runa216 said:

So basically what you're trying to say is that you're openly prejuduced against the abrahamic or western religions becuase FUCK the christian God for being more popular than your god.

No, that's not ignorant at all.


No, it is not "Fuck the christian god for being more popular" The Christians and Jews are trying to make the apocalypse come about so the conditions in revelations take place. The more power we feed into their vortex of negative energy, the stronger he gets and the closer we are to the apocalypse.

I AM AGAINST ANY GROUP WHO ACTIVELY HOPES FOR THE END OF THE WORLD.

but you even said earlier that your god or your satan or whatever it was (started with an E, I'm not going back to look through it) was 'proven to be older' than the christian God, nevermind the horrible leaps of logic you must take to believe that it makes your god any more credible than the christian one.  Anyone with a brain knows tha Christianity is basically just every other religion ever put together into an amalgamation of a lack of creativity, yet here you are complaining becuase people follow THAT god instead of the one you follow, nevermind the fact that Satan is an idea that basically originated from Christianity. 

Basically, your whole argument boils down to "Goosebumps is better than Harry Potter becuase it came first."  Never mind the fact that neither are related outside of the fact that they're both works of fiction for children.  



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docholliday said:
ps3-sales! said:
Why are you posting this on a video game sales website?


Because he is always thirsty for attention and i'll be damned if he didnt fool us all into giving it to him.

I am an attentione whore. We all know this. But this time I was NOT thirsty for attention. I made this thread to give honor and glory to my Lord and Father Satan. This, nor any of my other threads were just for attention. There were to share weird things I did or thought to the people on this site, which was the second site who's community I was ever a part of.



Max King of the Wild said:
TheEvilBanana said:
Runa216 said:
TheEvilBanana said:
docholliday said:
 

 

 

 


No, it is not "Fuck the christian god for being more popular" The Christians and Jews are trying to make the apocalypse come about so the conditions in revelations take place. The more power we feed into their vortex of negative energy, the stronger he gets and the closer we are to the apocalypse.

I AM AGAINST ANY GROUP WHO ACTIVELY HOPES FOR THE END OF THE WORLD.



I think you need to stop smoking those blunts in art class...  they are really going to your head.


If christianity is based on lies and they believe in a god that doesnt exist why would any of that even matter?  "The more power we feed into their vortex of negative energy, the stronger he gets and the closer we are to the apocalypse." This "he" you speak of, I thought he wasnt real. You know a myth made up by the crazy Jewish. Your points and arguments have been so flawed it sad. All you can say is "I believe it so it must be true". On that note I have to get up for work in 3 hours, off to bed I go!



docholliday said:
Max King of the Wild said:
TheEvilBanana said:
Runa216 said:
TheEvilBanana said:
docholliday said:
 

 

 

 

 

 


If christianity is based on lies and they believe in a god that doesnt exist why would any of that even matter?  "The more power we feed into their vortex of negative energy, the stronger he gets and the closer we are to the apocalypse." This "he" you speak of, I thought he wasnt real. You know a myth made up by the crazy Jewish. Your points and arguments have been so flawed it sad. All you can say is "I believe it so it must be true". On that note I have to get up for work in 3 hours, off to bed I go!

Ulgh... thanks for reminding me I work at 4am and it's 10pm... blah



TheEvilBanana said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
"I respect atheists for their reason, but I look down on them for never opening themselves up to the wonderful spiritual world that exists thinly veiled behind the obvious reality."


You look down on atheists for not believing in a spiritual world which shows no signs of existing at all?


How does that make any sense?


The spiritual world exists and is easily accesable by atheist. Please study and practise tantra, astral projection, OBE meditation, go experience some miracles, then come back and tell me the spiritual world shows no signs of existing.

Whether a spiritual world exist or not is irrelevant: Looking down on people for not believing in something whose existence is not backed up or even indicated by science is ridiculous.



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Runa216 said:
TheEvilBanana said:
Runa216 said:

So basically what you're trying to say is that you're openly prejuduced against the abrahamic or western religions becuase FUCK the christian God for being more popular than your god.

No, that's not ignorant at all.


No, it is not "Fuck the christian god for being more popular" The Christians and Jews are trying to make the apocalypse come about so the conditions in revelations take place. The more power we feed into their vortex of negative energy, the stronger he gets and the closer we are to the apocalypse.

I AM AGAINST ANY GROUP WHO ACTIVELY HOPES FOR THE END OF THE WORLD.

but you even said earlier that your god or your satan or whatever it was (started with an E, I'm not going back to look through it) was 'proven to be older' than the christian God, nevermind the horrible leaps of logic you must take to believe that it makes your god any more credible than the christian one.  Anyone with a brain knows tha Christianity is basically just every other religion ever put together into an amalgamation of a lack of creativity, yet here you are complaining becuase people follow THAT god instead of the one you follow, nevermind the fact that Satan is an idea that basically originated from Christianity.

Basically, your whole argument boils down to "Goosebumps is better than Harry Potter becuase it came first."  Never mind the fact that neither are related outside of the fact that they're both works of fiction for children.


Just for that, I am not responding to you any further. Satanism DID NOT come from christianity.

YOU GET... A copy and paste from www.JoyOfSatan.org


Satanism is not a "Christian invention."

Satanism predates Christianity and all other religions.

Satanism is not about spooks, goblins, vampires, Halloween monsters or other related entities.

Satanism is not about "evil."

Satanism is not a "reaction to Christianity."

Satanism is not about death.

True Satanism is about elevating and empowering humanity, which was our True Creator (Satan's) intention.

We know Satan/Lucifer as a real being.

We know Satan to be the True Father and Creator God of humanity.

We know "Yaweh/Jehova" of the bible to be a fictitious entity, and the people behind coercing this lie, to be the true deceivers of humanity and the masters of lies. This is evident in the many contradictions within the Judeo/Christian Bible, revealing this text to be the work of human beings who had occult knowledge and infused it with power to make it credible, and to incite fear in order to control.

We are law abiding.

We DO NOT advocate or participate in any blood or living sacrifice. This act is Judeo/Christian, as stated in their Bible- Deuteronomy 12:27:
"And thou shalt offer thy burnt offerings, the flesh and the blood, upon the altar of the LORD thy God: and the blood of thy sacrifices shall be poured out upon the altar of the LORD thy God, and thou shalt eat the flesh."

We have found Satanism is the original religion of humanity. We have done our research. Satanism is based upon the ancient religions that predated Judaism and Christianity from hundreds to thousands of years.

Christianity was a reaction to the original Pagan religions, labeled as "Satanism" meaning "enemy/adversary" in Hebrew. If you read through the information contained within this website, we prove this.

Christianity was invented to remove spiritual and occult knowledge (the powers of the mind) from the populace and place this power in the hands of a "chosen" few to the detriment of all humanity. The powers of the mind and soul are very real. People who are unaware of or who do not believe in these powers are easy to control and manipulate by those who are skilled in using these energies.

The Original Gods [Demons] were unjustly labeled as monsters and branded as "evil" to keep humanity from spiritual knowledge. Because of this, the human race has drastically degenerated both spiritually and intellectually.

Spiritual Satanism strongly advocates all learning, knowledge, inquiry, and free thought.

Spiritual Satanism supports the separation of church and state. Satanists do not push Satanism or prosyletize.

Spiritual Satanists acknowledge science and believe everything of the occult/supernatural to have a rational scientific explanation. We believe humanity has been held back dangerously in this area due to the hoax of Judeo/Christianity and its relentless attacks upon science for centuries.

We practice power meditation to advance spiritually and to elevate ourselves. Power meditation is as essential for the human soul as food is essential for the human body. The serpent, a symbol of Satan represents the firey kundalini force coiled at the base of the spine, which upon ascending, transforms the human mind and soul to a much higher level of understanding and ability. This is the true meaning of "Raising the Devil." The Serpent symbol of Satan also represents the DNA helix of life.

We work directly with Satan. We believe each and every person who is willing and respectful can have a personal relationship with Satan. There are no mediators in Spiritual Satanism; the Ministry is here only for guidance and support.

We take our tenets and practices directly from Satan himself. For far too long, enemies of Satan such as the Christian churches have been at liberty to dictate lies concerning Satan and Satanism. These lies have been the foundation of occult crimes and other heinous acts that they indirectly promote. True Satanism has been actively and zealously suppressed for centuries and many out of ignorance believe lies about Satan and react accordingly.

Spiritual Satanism is a life loving religion. Satan accepts us as we are, but guides us to advance ourselves to where we evolve to a higher level. Spiritual Satanists are free to live their lives as they choose- responsibility to the responsible. We live by natural law and encourage everyone to develop themselves to their fullest extent.

We know we “save” our own souls as opposed to claims of the Nazarene saving anyone. Satanism is based upon the true transformation of the soul through power meditation. The Nazarene is a fictitious entity, whose identity was stolen form some 18+ crucified Pagan Gods, such as Odin, who hung from a tree and is nothing more than a tool to keep humanity under the control of a chosen few. The Nazarene has been used in Christian masses and services as a substitute for a human living blood sacrifice, revealing their true purpose.

The Judeo/Christian religion is a vicious hoax on humanity of catastrophic proportions. For a hoax to succeed there has to be a lack of knowledge on the part of the victim. The Christian religion and its cohorts actively suppress knowledge and free thought, encourage people to be slaves, and never advocate or teach anything for the betterment or advancement of humanity. As opposed to the stories of how the Nazarene healed people; Satan shows us how we can heal ourselves and perform so-called miracles, using our minds and the powers of our own souls.

Through empowering ourselves, we have confidence, self-respect and achieve spiritual advancement and independence.

Spiritual Satanism places no limits on developing the powers of the mind- known as "witchcraft" or "magick." We believe in justice and just as martial artists are versed in the uses of Dim Mak and other aspects of physical combat, Spiritual Satanists are versed in the Black Arts of "magick" should they ever need them. People who are unaware of these powers are defenseless against them, and the powers that be know this all too well. Satan does not tolerate injustice.

Spiritual Satanism does not in any way condone spirit abuse as taught in the classical grimoires. The Demons who were bound and compelled to do the bidding of the sorcerers are now free and anyone using the nine-foot circle methods and "Jehova" names is inviting personal disaster. The Demons are our friends and with respect and reverence in summoning through Satan, we seek to establish mutually beneficial relationships with them.

Spiritual Satanism advocates individuality, liberty, and independence.

It is obvious that Satan is not the "deceiver of humanity." His followers have been few in number and he doesn't need copious amounts of wealth, power and control to keep his followers.



Max King of the Wild said:
TheEvilBanana said:
Runa216 said:
TheEvilBanana said:
docholliday said:
 

 

 

 


No, it is not "Fuck the christian god for being more popular" The Christians and Jews are trying to make the apocalypse come about so the conditions in revelations take place. The more power we feed into their vortex of negative energy, the stronger he gets and the closer we are to the apocalypse.

I AM AGAINST ANY GROUP WHO ACTIVELY HOPES FOR THE END OF THE WORLD.



I think you need to stop smoking those blunts in art class...  they are really going to your head.

I will smoke weed till the day I die. It's basically required to be an artist and musician.



IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
TheEvilBanana said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
"I respect atheists for their reason, but I look down on them for never opening themselves up to the wonderful spiritual world that exists thinly veiled behind the obvious reality."


You look down on atheists for not believing in a spiritual world which shows no signs of existing at all?


How does that make any sense?


The spiritual world exists and is easily accesable by atheist. Please study and practise tantra, astral projection, OBE meditation, go experience some miracles, then come back and tell me the spiritual world shows no signs of existing.

Whether the spiritual world exist or not is irrelevant: Looking down on people for not believing in something whose existence is not backed up or even indicated by science is ridiculous.

It is backed up by science. You just have not studied science enough. If you want to learn more about spirituality that is recorded scientifically, study the works of Aleister Crowley.



@The Evil Banana

I stopped taking this thread so seriously after you demonstrated your hypocrisy and all round ignorance of the subject matter (all of 2 posts after the OP).

I encourage you to take extra courses at your current school. Classes I think will help you that you should be interested in learning. Philosophy - Logic. Philosophy - Epistemology. Theology - World Religions. Philosophy - Ethics. Philosophy - History of Philosophy. Philosophy - Intro to Philosophy. Hopefully Intro would go into detail of all branches of philosophy (Religion, epistemology, metaphysics ect ect). Logic will help you from making grave logical fallacies. World religions would give you a better understanding of religions. Ethics and history of philosophy would cover theists philosophers.



I don't get Satanism, as an entity with that name.  It is defined in context of the Bible, and to me, seems to be someone who is intentionally rebelling against the Bible and Judeo-Christian ethics.  Satan in this context is a created being, while powerful, is less powerful than God.  One can take a Sophist and pragmatic, "Well it gets me what I want".  Name it something else, and try to distance it from the Christian religion and the Bible.  As far as historical Jesus goes, that is another issue, and I rather go with what scholars say than the what the original poster has to say.  And, this leads up to another point: I am increasingly getting bored with the opinions of people I don't know on the internet.  Everyone seems to have opinions, and will blab on and on about what they want and their views.  It is like one big giant wishing well of conflicting interests.

Anyhow, people can believe what they want.  Philosophically, I can say I find more answers if I don't center my life around what I want, but seek to transcend.  This means being humble and willing to be corrected.  Well I should drop off soon and get to sleep.  I do have church in the morning.