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Atheist/Agnostic 64 50.00%
 
Christian 46 35.94%
 
Satanist 11 8.59%
 
After this thread not sure 7 5.47%
 
Total:128
TheEvilBanana said:
docholliday said:
Age does mean something, does it mean everything? No, but it is part of the equation. Personally I find your "LOOK AT ME I NEED ATTENTION" threads to be tiresome and boring, its an old act find something new to do. Also you cant really say "If I unbeknowingly insulted" and then immediately call those same said ppl "delusional". I'm sure many of them feel the same way about your beliefs as well.


My threads were always about getting attention for being different then normal people, true. But this thread is for the honor and glory of Satan, it is not like my other threads. I did find something new to do, revere and honor Satan in every part of my life, and truly show kindness and happiness to my fiance and future wife.


You know the funny part about all of this? Mr. Evil Banana claims he loves Satan and all blah blah, but does Satan love him back? Correct me if I'm wrong, for for those who believe in Satan, he represents pure evil, corruption, ect. So, when  Mr. Evil Banana dies, does he plan on going to Hell (where many believe Satan currently resides). If so, what makes him different than any other Satanist on the Earth? Does he get special benefits? Is he going to be Satan's "sidekick" just because he claims to love him? I seriously doubt that.

As a Christian, if Satan represents evil, than I would almost guarentee that everyone in Hell besides Satan himself is suffering physically and mentally beyond belief. It just seems odd to imagine Satan picking favorites.

Yeah I said Satan a lot, big whoop wanta fight about it?



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I shall respond only briefly. I am afraid that the being you exalt, you have exalted in falsehood. For you see, Satan has only the power of lies. I speak to you the truth. Satan has no power. He has been defeated by the Lamb of God.

Of course this disgusts you. The precious blood of Christ was poured out for all mankind for the forgiveness and remission of sins. Simply put, God took all of your sins onto himself. But consider this, ye who have fallen so far from the Truth:

"For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." (Hebrews 10:26-31)

You are in danger of eternal hellfire. You think you shall save yourself from you own evil ways? Tell me, O man, how shall you overcome your karmic bonds if it was you who bound yourself up in them initially? For you have enslaved yourself to evil; and now, having sold yourself to sin, you think you will buy yourself back? But you are the one who got caught in the snare to begin with! The ways of evil are crafty, cunning; will you outsmart evil? But you have already fallen into evil, and so, what makes you think that you will overcome?

I say to you that you shall not. Consider this: if you continue to accumulate more and more evil deeds to your name, shall you not be reincarnated in much worse state than the one which you find yourself now? Shall you not eternally continue down the road of greater and greater evils? And you have no way out. You think you shall overcome your karmic bonds? Think again.

But I have great news for you! The Son of GOD, the one true GOD, has come for you. He has borne the punishment for all of your sins. He has taken what you cannot take, He has done away with what you cannot destroy. If you will let Jesus in, then the lies of Satan, the evil one, will find no place in your heart. You will be set free from evil and enslaved to righteousness. Tell me, you who are concerned with being a Christian slave - do you not realize that you are currently a slave to sin, destruction, and evil? And just as only corn can come from corn, only nettles from nettles, shall not only greater sin, destruction, and evil, proceed thence?

You are trapped. Justice shall be executed. Will you escape the righteous judgment of God, creator of both the heavens and earth? You know better. You have defiled God's glorious creation just like the rest of us. There is no way out unless God Himself will forgive you.



@ EvilBanana, I respect your freedom to choose whatever you want to believe in but you do indeed come across as immature when you are putting down other's beliefs. Some of the posters here have made you look pretty bad overall when you shrink under the pressure of them pointing out some flaws. That being said, I think the fact that you are thinking about these things and trying to work out something to believe in is good overall.....as long as you aren't sacrificing people's pets and kids. I'm sure that stereotype is annoying right....I'm just playing.

Honestly, I'm actually surprised by what you claim Satanism is, it doesn't sound too bad and from some of the things you've written, reminds me of what I know of the Eastern religions. I don't have a one specific belief tradition that I practice but from what I've read, I think I have more in common with Buddhism and Taoism. I really do respect what I know to be the core of most of the world's major religious belief systems because I think they are very similar.

Good luck bro and remember, you can give praise to your god without putting down other's. Just think about how shitty it sounds when other people do it.



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TheEvilBanana said:
docholliday said:
Age does mean something, does it mean everything? No, but it is part of the equation. Personally I find your "LOOK AT ME I NEED ATTENTION" threads to be tiresome and boring, its an old act find something new to do. Also you cant really say "If I unbeknowingly insulted" and then immediately call those same said ppl "delusional". I'm sure many of them feel the same way about your beliefs as well.


My threads were always about getting attention for being different then normal people, true. But this thread is for the honor and glory of Satan, it is not like my other threads. I did find something new to do, revere and honor Satan in every part of my life, and truly show kindness and happiness to my fiance and future wife.


You know the funny part about all of this? Mr. Evil Banana claims he loves Satan and all blah blah, but does Satan love him back? Correct me if I'm wrong, for for those who believe in Satan, he represents pure evil, corruption, ect. So, when  Mr. Evil Banana dies, does he plan on going to Hell (where many believe Satan currently resides). If so, what makes him different than any other Satanist on the Earth? Does he get special benefits? Is he going to be Satan's "sidekick" just because he claims to love him? I seriously doubt that.

As a Christian, if Satan represents evil, than I would almost guarentee that everyone in Hell besides Satan himself is suffering physically and mentally beyond belief. It just seems odd to imagine Satan picking favorites.

Yeah I said Satan a lot, big whoop wanta fight about it?

You know nothing about Satan. He stands for light, not evil. Lucifer means the light bearer. He is not corrupt. I do plan on going to hell when I die. Hell is the perfect utopian society that exists under the 4 great demons. Satan cares and loves all those who follow his image, and will reward them in the afterlife.

Your christian concept of Satan is not the original concept of Satan that was known before the hebrew religion existed.



NolSinkler said:
I shall respond only briefly. I am afraid that the being you exalt, you have exalted in falsehood. For you see, Satan has only the power of lies. I speak to you the truth. Satan has no power. He has been defeated by the Lamb of God.

Of course this disgusts you. The precious blood of Christ was poured out for all mankind for the forgiveness and remission of sins. Simply put, God took all of your sins onto himself. But consider this, ye who have fallen so far from the Truth:

"For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." (Hebrews 10:26-31)

You are in danger of eternal hellfire. You think you shall save yourself from you own evil ways? Tell me, O man, how shall you overcome your karmic bonds if it was you who bound yourself up in them initially? For you have enslaved yourself to evil; and now, having sold yourself to sin, you think you will buy yourself back? But you are the one who got caught in the snare to begin with! The ways of evil are crafty, cunning; will you outsmart evil? But you have already fallen into evil, and so, what makes you think that you will overcome?

I say to you that you shall not. Consider this: if you continue to accumulate more and more evil deeds to your name, shall you not be reincarnated in much worse state than the one which you find yourself now? Shall you not eternally continue down the road of greater and greater evils? And you have no way out. You think you shall overcome your karmic bonds? Think again.

But I have great news for you! The Son of GOD, the one true GOD, has come for you. He has borne the punishment for all of your sins. He has taken what you cannot take, He has done away with what you cannot destroy. If you will let Jesus in, then the lies of Satan, the evil one, will find no place in your heart. You will be set free from evil and enslaved to righteousness. Tell me, you who are concerned with being a Christian slave - do you not realize that you are currently a slave to sin, destruction, and evil? And just as only corn can come from corn, only nettles from nettles, shall not only greater sin, destruction, and evil, proceed thence?

You are trapped. Justice shall be executed. Will you escape the righteous judgment of God, creator of both the heavens and earth? You know better. You have defiled God's glorious creation just like the rest of us. There is no way out unless God Himself will forgive you.

If Satan has no power, why are Satans followers so strong and magickally progressed, and christians are weak spiritually and have literally zero ability to cast spells? If he's defeated by the Lamb of God, why is his image still around and getting stronger every day? Why are the morals of Satanism more widely followed the the morals in the bible? 

 I simply think you're another mindless drone of the hebrews. I don't want your God to take my sins, and he has no ability to. My sins are my own to bare, and I expect bad things to come to me for bad karma I've commited, such is life. The idea that God forgives you for everything and forgets it all is discusting. A true God would punish you for your sins and reward you for your good deeds. That's what Satan does.

According to your Jesus, I have already commited to unforgivable sin of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. There is no salvation for me, no matter what I do. Luckily I don't believe in your newer, false, made up religion full of contradictions and bad advice in the form of the bible. I do both Good and "evil" things, for such are both part of balance. There is no Good and evil, only actions with certain consequenses. Besides I DO NO HARM TO OTHERS. I am a good person, I do nice things for people. I will reincarnate into a good life if I do not reach godhood. But the fact of the matter is my soul is very old and already VERY spiritually progressed and I visit hell inbetween each life to regroup and plan for the next bit of fun I'm going to have on the earth.

How am I a slave to sin, evil, and destruction? I destroy and I create first of all, for such is the meaning of this world. Is is part of the cycle of this world. Destruction and creation is the theme of this universe... But sin? I do not do bad things. I harm no one intentionally. I am not evil. I am a good person, use kind words, always help out strangers, pet animals and tell them their good. My goal in life is to make others happy. It's probably not obvious from this thread, but this is a discussion on a topic that is very serious to me and I am not trying to be nice or a good person. I am just stating my facts and opinions, listening to other people's and responding with what I believe to be the truth.

I am not trapped. I am free. No God owns me, I am not required to worship any God, I have no rules put upon me, but if I do bad, bad will come to me, If I do good, good will come to me. My religion is not like yours. Yours takes away responsibility, you just give yourself and your sin over to Jesus and everything is fine and dandy. That's not the way the world works. That's not the way reality works. If you do bad, you will be punished. Believe it. Jesus can't save anyone from their bad karma. It is their own burden to bear.

The heavens and earth were formed by scientific processes. Not God. He didn't create anything. Your God is a concept and idea created by men, that is why your bible is full of contradictions, horrible advice, and stories of your "chosen people" the jews going into foreign lands and slaughtering the husband, wives, and first born sons of the "enemy". The only thing the "enemy" did wrong was worship the wrong Gods. What kind of God preaches religious intolerance, what kind of Gods holy people slaughter people of other religions and their wives and kids? A very sick God and chosen people, that's who.



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richardhutnik said:

I don't get Satanism, as an entity with that name.  It is defined in context of the Bible, and to me, seems to be someone who is intentionally rebelling against the Bible and Judeo-Christian ethics.  Satan in this context is a created being, while powerful, is less powerful than God.  One can take a Sophist and pragmatic, "Well it gets me what I want".  Name it something else, and try to distance it from the Christian religion and the Bible.  As far as historical Jesus goes, that is another issue, and I rather go with what scholars say than the what the original poster has to say.  And, this leads up to another point: I am increasingly getting bored with the opinions of people I don't know on the internet.  Everyone seems to have opinions, and will blab on and on about what they want and their views.  It is like one big giant wishing well of conflicting interests.

Anyhow, people can believe what they want.  Philosophically, I can say I find more answers if I don't center my life around what I want, but seek to transcend.  This means being humble and willing to be corrected.  Well I should drop off soon and get to sleep.  I do have church in the morning.

Satan/Enki predates christianity and the bible is going against him, not the other way around. Satan in the true context, is an uncreated being, the most powerful, and is a real God, not a God created by humans like the God YHWH. Satan prefers to be called Satan and prefers his religion to be called Satanism because "Satan" mean adversary, and he is the adversary of the hebrew people who are working so hard to remove knowledge of the original religions, pagan Gods and all spiritual and occult knowledge. Inquisition anyone? All the stories in the bible of them whiping out peoples who were against their God? They're bad intolerant people. While I HATE judaism and christianity. I WOULD NEVER KILL SOMEONE FOR IT. They can worship their false God and not have the power and knowledge I obtain from power meditation and study under the guidance of a much older, much more valid, and more powerful God. You would rather go with the scholars who are studying the history that is highly altered by the Jews, rather then studying the real history of earth and deciding for yourself what to believe. I AM NOT TELLING ANYONE TO BELIEVE ANYTHING I AM SAYING. I encourage everyone to study this on their own, and not just go with the opinions of mainstream historians and scholars JUST BECAUSE they're mainstream. You guys are so full of mainstream. Mainsteam sucks. /hipster





Posting from phone so there may be mistakes.

Jesus told his followers to go out in the world and spread his word. So a good example of these people today are priests. So why does go let them rape children? These people represent god. Shouldnt god instantly destroy these people. If you get rape by one do you instantly get a ticket to heaven because how could god expect you to stay a believer. With at least one priest being busted each week it seems its more a religion of kid abuse.
Say what ever you like but just last week, the head of the church here is Australia was on the news saying its not such a big deal. Wtf?
If gods real and I stand before him ill say the truth, I didnt want to belong to something that abuses and rapes children.



@ The Evil Banana - Do you realize how hypocritical you sound? Or are you ignorant to that as well?

What does this magick allow you to do?



Jicale said:
Posting from phone so there may be mistakes.

Jesus told his followers to go out in the world and spread his word. So a good example of these people today are priests. So why does go let them rape children? These people represent god. Shouldnt god instantly destroy these people. If you get rape by one do you instantly get a ticket to heaven because how could god expect you to stay a believer. With at least one priest being busted each week it seems its more a religion of kid abuse.
Say what ever you like but just last week, the head of the church here is Australia was on the news saying its not such a big deal. Wtf?
If gods real and I stand before him ill say the truth, I didnt want to belong to something that abuses and rapes children.



First of all Priests would be catholic. Secondly, no... just no. I enjoy the educated athiest... however posts like this are just... just... ulgh... shows a high level of ignorance



toadslayer72 said:
@ EvilBanana, I respect your freedom to choose whatever you want to believe in but you do indeed come across as immature when you are putting down other's beliefs. Some of the posters here have made you look pretty bad overall when you shrink under the pressure of them pointing out some flaws. That being said, I think the fact that you are thinking about these things and trying to work out something to believe in is good overall.....as long as you aren't sacrificing people's pets and kids. I'm sure that stereotype is annoying right....I'm just playing.

Honestly, I'm actually surprised by what you claim Satanism is, it doesn't sound too bad and from some of the things you've written, reminds me of what I know of the Eastern religions. I don't have a one specific belief tradition that I practice but from what I've read, I think I have more in common with Buddhism and Taoism. I really do respect what I know to be the core of most of the world's major religious belief systems because I think they are very similar.

Good luck bro and remember, you can give praise to your god without putting down other's. Just think about how shitty it sounds when other people do it.

I never claimed to be mature. I do not believe others posters made me look bad in any way, I find them to be silly children nitpicking at things that don't even matter rather then discussing the true message and meaning of my thread. No one has argued against the important facts and the validity of the fact that the God Enki predates the judeo/christian religion. How am I shrinking? My thoughtline is expanding with each irrelivant post that get's put here. 

You have NO IDEA how annoying the animal/children sacrifice thing is. *REAL* Satanists do not do that. Animals and children are so precious to Satan and he HATES anyone who would do a blood sacrifice for any reason, especially sacrificing an animal or child. The fact that most people immediatly think of evil and death when you mention Satan show's how misinformed they are about who Enki, Father of the Gods, Satan The Adversary, Lucifer the light bearer, really is.

Satanism is VERY similar to eastern religion and we ACCEPT and CHERISH eastern religions, except anything that has obviously been influenced by the judeo/christian religions. I actually am a taoist, I've read the tao te ching a lot. I used to be a buddhist. I have a very extensive religious background. I've been a born again christian. I've been a gnostic christian. I've been agnostic. I've been atheistic. I've been a new ager, a pagan, a wiccan, a rastafarian, and many other religions I can't remember the name of. Throughout all this. I've always felt VERY connected to a force of pure light, that was directing my actions and improving my beliefs more and more with each religion I study. My current swing is Satanism, maybe someday it will progress to another religion, it will still incorporate Eastern/Satanic ideas, but maybe one day I'll worship the unamed Goddess, creator of all, mother of Satan. But for right now and the facts that I know, Satan seems like the correct choice. His magickal teaching on spells and teachings on power meditation found on www.JoyOfSatan.Org give you what you want, right when you wants it. The secrets he's dictated to me personally, the abilities he's granted me, and the things I have learned from the website made by his most loyal followers have improved my life in way I could not start to explain to someone. My third eye is opened, my kundalini is acsended, my chakra system is filled with the white gold light of power , the blue light of orgasm, the green light of wealth, the pink light of love, the orange light of passion, the red light of the dragon. the black energy of darkness, and the grey energy of death. Satan has made me into an amalgamation of energies circulating throughout my system that can leave my body and direct my influence into the world. I will never turn from Satan...