So the Batman Arkham Asylum and City games must also be terrible becuase it's the same basic ideas.  A bunch of dudes surround you and you time your attacks, blocks, and counters with their attacks.  That game got hailed for its combat. 

So the Batman Arkham Asylum and City games must also be terrible becuase it's the same basic ideas.  A bunch of dudes surround you and you time your attacks, blocks, and counters with their attacks.  That game got hailed for its combat. 

Batman is leagues ahead of Assassin's Creed in terms of combat.

Firstly, in Batman, you could actually be offensive and attack most enemies. You don't have to passively sit back and wait for the enemy to attack before you can kill him. That makes Batman's combat more satisfying than Assassin's Creed easily. That way, you don't have any breaks in combat, and each battle feels like a steady flow of attacks/counterattacks. On the other hand, in Assassin's Creed, there is no sense of flow. There are plenty of offputting breaks in combat in Assassin's Creed when you're waiting for the enemy to attack so you can counterattack.

Secondly, the variety of enemies, combos, and equipment makes encounters ten times as diverse as Assassin's Creed. There's about 5-6 different types of equipment that you can use facing any enemy. There are many different enemies that each require different combos, and sometimes different equipment. After your combo meter reaches a certain level, you can use four different special combos, etc.  Some enemies require you stun them, some require you to jump over them, some require you use a beat-down combo, etc.

And lastly, Batman's combat actually offers you a challenge. You can't just sit back and press the counterattack button because that won't kill the enemies. You have to actually take the offensive, while simotaneously looking out for attacking enemies. You feel much more alert and active while playing Batman than in Assassin's Creed. 

I could go on and on about why Batman trumps Assassin's Creed in combat, but I haven't played it in a while, so I can't be totally accurate about everything. Are you really telling me that Assassin's Creed combat is remotely comparable to that of Batman? Really?

Batman is leagues ahead of Assassin's Creed in terms of combat.

Firstly, in Batman, you could actually be offensive and attack most enemies. You don't have to passively sit back and wait for the enemy to attack before you can kill him. That makes Batman's combat more satisfying than Assassin's Creed easily. That way, you don't have any breaks in combat, and each battle feels like a steady flow of attacks/counterattacks. On the other hand, in Assassin's Creed, there is no sense of flow. There are plenty of offputting breaks in combat in Assassin's Creed when you're waiting for the enemy to attack so you can counterattack.

Secondly, the variety of enemies, combos, and equipment makes encounters ten times as diverse as Assassin's Creed. There's about 5-6 different types of equipment that you can use facing any enemy. There are many different enemies that each require different combos, and sometimes different equipment. After your combo meter reaches a certain level, you can use four different special combos, etc.  Some enemies require you stun them, some require you to jump over them, some require you use a beat-down combo, etc.

And lastly, Batman's combat actually offers you a challenge. You can't just sit back and press the counterattack button because that won't kill the enemies. You have to actually take the offensive, while simotaneously looking out for attacking enemies. You feel much more alert and active while playing Batman than in Assassin's Creed. 

I could go on and on about why Batman trumps Assassin's Creed in combat, but I haven't played it in a while, so I can't be totally accurate about everything. Are you really telling me that Assassin's Creed combat is remotely comparable to that of Batman? Really?

I agree with most of your points Runa and Jay is pretty far off here. But there is a major difference between the combat of AC2 and batman.

That major difference being kill streaks. This is something Brotherhood corrected....so brotherhood's and batman's combat is pretty much the same. But as for the rest of the games in the series...quite different.

Yeah, I think we're done here.  Pretty much everything you just said defending the game you like can be easily applied to the game you're saying is the worst ever.  If you can't see the hypocrisy and the blatant absense of objectivity here, there's nothing more I can do for you.  

Majority of Ass Cracks 2 can be played using stealth its just really difficult. The AI is also shitty so that makes it even harder (not the correct type of challenge but a challenge non the less). So not sure where you got the 20% from.

And brotherhood (easily the best gameplay in the series so far) can be played entirely using stealth. I have done this. So don't argue :)

Also the combat in brotherhood was a HUGE step up compared to 2 it felt very similar to the batman games. U should see the leaderboards for the combat challenges insane stuff happening there.

To be honest jay this just seems like a flame thread. You dont really seem to know the game or you just dont like it. But most of your points are completely wrong.