No, th fact that a lot of user generated levels were made doesn't mean, the LBP editor is a good one. After all you consider irrilevant the fact that 10times more people are playing Super Mario instead of LBP. Imo, if you want to judge an editor you have to consider its capacity and its efficienty. If you consider capacity LBP editor is good, but on the other hand you can learn to use a simple tool like Gamemaker which is more capable and it's not really that hard to learn with a tutorial. If you consider its efficiency, as I said before, there is something wrong if a buch of random programmers on the internet can make an editor for Super Mario which is easier and quicker to use than the editor made by the AAA production.

As for the challange. Is NSMB more challenging than LBP? Yes. Can NSMB can be considered, in general, a challenging game? No. To be clear, I don't think NSMB is anywere close to be perfect. (for instance I think both Super Meat Boy and DKCR are better in single player) Still even tought it's not really challaging it is fine in any other aspect that make a platformer a good one. It has a fine control response, it has good level designes and, even tought it's quite easy to beat, it has an evident lerning curve (you can see it perfectly when you play multiplayer in coin battle mode). LBP isn't good in any of these departments.

edit. To be precise, what is valid for LBP is also valid for other games. Kirby Epic Yarn for example is praised by many Nintendo fans. I think it sucks, plain (imo) level design, no learning curve, no challange at all, good controls at least. And yet it has an higher metascore than Mario and Donkey Kong.

@ BOLDED Take away all the customizations and the features community, Little bigPlantet isnt a superior platforming game. Mario does it better - as a platformer.

With the customization and the community, LittleBigPlanet is a better game.

So i strongly disagree with you.

Sometimes i think sony adds all these customization to their games (LBP, Modnation, LBP Karting) to hide the fact the cant compete with nintendo in game and level design. To compensate for this - they have players make their own stuff.

yes just because millions of levels were created on doesnt mean its a good one. but you forgot the fact that its level editor was once of the main reasons its one tons of awards, its level editor is one of the main reasons its a great game, and the quality and creativity that the user generated levels have is a  testament to the editors quality. and say about obout littlebigplanets level desinges? and i never had a single problem with littlebigplanets control response, i have no idea where your bringing that from 

when did i use opinion? i gave metacritic scores. in this thread i have never said in my opinion which game i personally think is better 

Edit : i certainly have no need to "look down everything nintendo" i simply answered the OP, some people obviously didnt like the answer (even though its true) and replied back to instead of answering the OP

Well if you can mention the opinion of game journalists, then surely I can mention the opinion of gamers? We all know game journalists have been bribed or black mailed into giving games higher scores than what they would have liked. And as far as I know this have never happened to a Nintendo game, so we can assume that Nintendo isn't in to that sort of business and therefor their game score would be lower. And then factoring in the fact that eurogamer, a pretty big and respected gaming site, in an article clearly was biased AGAINST Nintendo and Wii U we can assume that several game sites have something against Nintendo.

What I'm trying to say is that refering to the score of either game journalists or users/gamers in itself is faulty. Neither can be trusted.

Bottom line is, when people put money down for something they deem it worth it. Way more people put money down for NSMB than LBP, even with LBP being a lot cheaper nowadays. So you can rub on out on your hipster scores all you want, it doesn't help the games at all. 50 reviewers opinions are inferior to millions of opinions of people who actually put their money where their mouths are.

A review of a game is an Opinion. It is not a fact.

Edit: If a review score  was a fact all the reviews of that game would give it the same score. My car is a Toyota Corolla. No one can say it is and Honda Accord. Some one can say that my car is good, someone can say that my car is bad. Thats an opinion. But no one can say that my car is not a Toyota Corolla. Thats a fact. 

i stoped reading your reply when you said  "asfar as i know it didnt happen with nintendo" and we "can assume nintendo isnt into that bussines" 

well as far as i know sony, ms, activision, ea and rockstar arent into that stuff as well, we we can assume there games arent bribed as well? or what how does this go? we go by assumptions and speculation now?

LOL!!!

when did i ever say it wasnt? i stated that LBP had higher metacritic scores then SMB. is that an opinion or fact?