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curl-6 on 09 November 2012
bananaking21 said:
curl-6 said:
bananaking21 said:
curl-6 said:
bananaking21 said:
curl-6 said:

True, but the PS3's and 360's first party games fall far short of the Wii's, so  it kinda balances out.


no they dont, well 360's first party games might, but wii exclusives fall short of those of the ps3's

I'd dispute that.

The only PS3 first party game I'd rank alongside the likes of Mario Galaxy 1 & 2, Zelda Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword, Metroid Prime 3, Xenoblade, and Donkey Kong Country Returns is Uncharted 2.

Not that Infamous 1 & 2, Uncharted 1 & 3, etc aren't good, but the games above are in a league all their own in my opinion. (Plus a few multiplats like Mass Effect 2, Bayonetta, and Bioshock)

i'd dispute that, donkey kong is no way in the same league as littlebig planet. i'd pick any uncharted game over zelda any day. killzone is light years ahead of metriod in terms of quality and production value's. and god of war is on a league of its own

For me, DKCR's genius level design and superior physics put it well above LBP. Metroid likewise has an intelligence and atmosphere the Killzone games can't match.

Uncharted 1 and 3 were good, but 3 was too scripted and 1 just lacked that spark that separate the great games from the good ones. God of War 1 & 2 were great on PS2, but 3 just felt like more of the same.

you know killzone has one of the best AI's in video games right? how is it lack of intelligence? also did you not see the helgan atmosphere? 

"God of War 1 & 2 were great on PS2, but 3 just felt like more of the same." 

kinda funny saying that when you preffer nintendo games obviously 

I'm talking about intelligence in level design. (Not that Killzone 2 and 3 lack this, just that they don't match Metroid in it) MP3 is more cerebral than Killzone, you don't just have to sort out how to fight your way through baddies, you also have to think about how to proceed by solving environmental puzzles. The kind of multilayered dungeons Metroid has, KZ never makes you think that hard.

And sure, the Killzone games had a well done bleak atmosphere, but lots of games have a well done bleak atmosphere. What almost no games have is MP3's ability to communicate a cohesive alien culture through the geometric patterns of their architecture, the clockwork mechanisms of their machinery. Add in the often haunting scan logs and the amazingly varied and imaginative locales, and very few games can compare in terms of atmosphere. (Though I will say that as environments go  KZ3's jungle is worthy of a Metroid Prime game. The rest was much less interesting.)

As for the charge that Nintendo games are more of the same, I'd say that with the possible exception of Mario Galaxy 2 (which only gets away with it by being virtually flawless in design and execution, and because like God of War 2 it retained a genre gold standard) every Wii game I listed presented significant steps forward in gameplay compared to its predecessors. God of War 3 did not.



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Barozi on 09 November 2012
Panama said:
Have you even played all of those? I assure you that you wouldn't even be posting half of them if you did. I broke out into a cold sweat as soon as I saw Castlevania Judgment. Good soundtrack though.

I already stopped at Call of Duty 3 :P



phenom08 on 09 November 2012

Yea I'll take this library over the others. It had plenty exclusive 3rd party games. WiiU is looking to add some of the best the others received.



sales2099 on 09 November 2012

Thats it???

Look buddy, Wii 3rd party is no match for 360 and PS3 3rd party.

You bought a Wii for the casual appeal or for its 1st party offerings. Thats it



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

runqvist on 09 November 2012

If that is fantastic, how do you describe PS360 third party library?



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Gamerace on 09 November 2012
DieAppleDie said:

taking out sport, racing, party, fitness.....etc casual games ;)

and license based games (most)

 This is not a complimentary or inclusive list.  It looks like something you pulled together just looking at game names.

 

Alice in Wonderland - Good
Alone in the Dark - Broken to the point of unplayability
Arc Rise Fantasia - Good
Baroque - Poor
Bleach: Shattered Blade
Boom Blox - Great

Boom Blox Bash Party - Excellent
Broken Sword: The Shadow of the Templar (Director's Cut) - Good but very, very old
Brothers in Arms: Double Time - Poor and broken gameplay
Bully: Scholarship Edition - Excellent
Call of Duty 3 - Fair
Call of Duty: Black Ops - Excellent (but not compared to HD versions)
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - As above
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare: Reflex Edition - As above
Call of Duty: World at War - As above
Castelvania Judgment - Decent fighter
The Conduit - Good
Conduit 2 - Good
Crash: Mind over Mutant
Cursed Mountain - Unique but budget title
Anno: Create A New world - Excellent but very old
Dead Rising: Chop Till You Drop - Poor
Dead Space: Extraction - Excellent but a on rails version no one wanted
Deadly Creatures - Fair
Disney Epic Mickey - Good
Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two
Dragon Ball: Revenge of King Piccolo - Fair
Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3 - Good
Dragon Blade: Wrath of Fire - Poor, very repetitive
Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors - Fair
Dragon Quest X: Mezameshi Itsutsu no Shuzoku Online - Japan only
Drawn to Life: The Next Chapter

Driver: San Francisco - Good and vastly overlooked
Earth Seeker - Japan only
Elebits - Good
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers  - Fair, great graphics/story, broken gameplay
Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo's Dungeon
Fragile Dreams: Farewell Ruins of the Moon - Great story, broken gameplay
Ghostbusters: The Video Game
TheGodfather: Blackhand Edition- Excellent - definitive version
GoldenEye 007 Excellent
Grand Slam Tennis Excellent
Guilty Gear XX Λ Core
Harvest Moon: Animal Parade
Harvest Moon: Magical Melody
Harvest Moon: Tree of Tranquility
The House of the Dead: Overkill Excellent for a onrails shooter
King of Fighters Collection: The Orochi Saga
The Last Story Excellent
Little King's Story Unique and excellent but niche
Lost in Blue: Shipwrecked Fair
Lost in Shadow Good
MadWorld Good but repetitive
Manhunt 2 Good but editted to $#!t
Medal of Honor: Heroes 2 - Good
Medal of Honor: Vanguard - Fair
Nocturne - Never heard of this
Monster Hunter Tri - Excellent
Mortal Kombat: Armageddon - Good game made worse by poor motion controls
Muramasa: The Demon Blade excellent
Mushroom Men Excellent and vastly overlooked
Need for Speed: Carbon - Good

Need for Speed: Nitro Fair
Nights: Journey of Dreams Fair
No More Heroes Good (poor open world)
No More Heroes 2: Desperate Struggle Excellent
Obscure: The Aftermath Fair
Ōkami Excellent
Opoona Good
Overlord: Dark Legend Excellent and vastly overlooked

Pandora's Tower - Very good but not in NA
Phantom Brave: We Meet Again Good
Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sand Legend Excellent and vastly overlooked
Pro Evolution Soccer  Excellent and unique controls, often considered superior to HD versions
Project Zero 2: Wii Excellent but not in NA
Rayman Origins Excellent
Red Steel Fair - poor controls
Red Steel 2 Excellent controls but lacks multiplayer, online, unacceptable loadtimes, small environments, should have been 100xs bettter
Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition excellent
Resident Evil Archives: Resident Evil Good
Resident Evil Archives: Resident Evil Zero Good
Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles Good
Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles Good
Rune Factory Frontier Good
Rune Factory: Tides of Destiny Fair

Sakura Wars: So Long my Love - Excellent but very niche
Scarface: The World Is Yours Excellent
Secret Files: Tunguska Good
Secret Files 2: Puritas Cordis Good - not in NA
Shiren the Wanderer Good
Sid Meiers pirates! Excellent but very very old
Silent Hill: Shattered Memories Excellent
Skate It Good
Sonic and the Secret Rings Fair
Sonic Colors Excellent
Spectrobes: Origins Good
Spider-Man: Web of Shadows/Amazing Fair

Spider-Man: Shattered/Time Good
SSX Blur Good
Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World Good
Tales of Graces - Japan only
Tatsunoko vs. Capcom: Ultimate All-Stars Excellent
Tomb Raider: Anniversary Good and definitive version imo
Trauma Center: New Blood Good
Trauma Center: Second Opinion Good

Trauma Centre: Trauma Team - Excellent
Valhalla Knights: Eldar Saga - Poor

Xenoblade - Excellent
Zack & Wiki: Quest for Barbaros' Treasure - Excellent

 

As you can see, the Wii has an excellent 3rd party game library

Comments? Some apologies perhaps? ;)

So while you have some great games here (and missed others including Xenoblade! (added)) you've also included all kinds of medicority and some absolute crap too.   If you're going to make such a list, at least list games people would actually want to own.



 

Gamerace on 09 November 2012
RolStoppable said:
Gamerace said:

So while you have some great games here (and missed others including Xenoblade! (added)) you've also included all kinds of medicority and some absolute crap too.   If you're going to make such a list, at least list games people would actually want to own.

He didn't miss Xenoblade, that's a first party game.


Oh yeah.

 He still missed a ton of 3rd party titles.



 

Jay520 on 09 November 2012

Compare it to the HD consoles and last gen's market leader, then the Wii's 3rd party support is quite poor. The Wii's 3rd party support is really only comparable to that of the Gamecube, which had mediocre 3rd party support. If being above mediocrity is your standard for fantastic, then you have quite low standards.



DieAppleDie on 09 November 2012

I think its very on par with the PS2 library
plus Wii games have usually better grafix, and we all know how important is that ;)



Jay520 on 09 November 2012
DieAppleDie said:
I think its very on par with the PS2 library
plus Wii games have usually better grafix, and we all know how important is that ;)



Are you serious? The PS2 had arguably the best 3rd party support of all time...the Wii isn't remotely close, and definitely not on par, to that accomplishment.