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So, what's your take?

News to me. 6 9.38%
 
I already knew. 58 90.63%
 
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F0X on 01 November 2012
happydolphin said:

@Roma. :) Hush you.

@Force Unleashed. Just wanted to post the numbers.

PosGamePlatformYearGenrePublisherNorth AmericaEuropeJapanRest of WorldGlobal
1 Star Wars: The Force Unleashed X360 2008 Action LucasArts 1.58 0.68 0.00 0.24 2.50
2 Star Wars: The Force Unleashed PS3 2008 Action LucasArts 0.92 0.69 0.00 0.30 1.91
3 Star Wars: The Force Unleashed Wii 2008 Action Activision 1.02 0.51 0.00 0.17 1.70
4 Star Wars: The Force Unleashed PS2 2008 Action LucasArts 0.49 0.60 0.01 0.16 1.25

Did you guys think the Wii version was worthy of the HD version?


I didn't play the Wii version, but I heard that it was similar to the PS2 version. Which is all I needed to know to decide against touching it with a 100-foot pole.

This was probably the better Star Wars game, though I didn't love it as much as some people.



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happydolphin on 01 November 2012
oniyide said:

On the multiplat side?? yeah it is im not talking about whatever exclusive game would have been made for Wii. But i can probably think of maybe 5 games that are actually BETTER on Wii than they are on PS360. If you can think of more i would like to hear them.

As for PoP ill take your word for it, never played any version. But something is to be said for it selling the worst of them all. Not sure what you are saying though, if the HD versions would have been better the game would have sold more?? Well yeah, that wont mean it would really translate sales to Wii version

I'm curious of the 5 games.

FOX, what do you mean by No More Heroes being the better Star Wars game?



F0X on 01 November 2012
oniyide said:
F0X said:
oniyide said:
F0X said:


I don't believe that all gamers that identify themselves as "core" pay so close attention. Playing games regularly doesn't automatically equal keeping up on all the news, and I've seen cases of core gamers who play games regularly, but focus on certain genres or franchises, so they have a bit of tunnel vision concerning different types of games. Don't assume that all core gamers are uber-informed like us VGChartz afficionados.

Now, those who pay extra attention to PoP (the fanbase) are the ones who are most likely to pick up the Wii version of TFS in any scenario (and I imagine many ploncking down the cash for both versions), so this is a good test to see how many really informed, dedicated gamers follow the series. Or (and this is a total assumption that doesn't matter) perhaps some people don't bother with reviews so much and would rather play a game of the platform of their preference even if the version isn't as good, meaning there are a large number of people in the fanbase that I really don't want to associate with. Actually that might explain why people are saying CoD was comparable on Wii (not me!)

You dont need to pay close attention or to look at gaming news to clearly see what a system might be capable of doing. If I look at a game from the WIi library and one from the PS360 library, without knowing anyting I can at least come to the conclusion that hey the PS360 is clearly capable of more than the Wii is.

As for PoP i was under that that game underperformed, period. IMHO anyone who was saying COD is comparble on Wii either really love the pointer controls and can deal with it running like crap or they are lying to themselves.


What a system is capable of doing doesn't automatically translate to what the system will do in every scenario. It's lazy thinking to assume that, well, the HD twins are more powerful so every game is going to be leagues better so I should ignore any good Wii versions that may have their own original ideas since, after all, the platform did have far more promise than most developers delivered on.

Perhaps PoP:TFS would've performed better in a hypothetical scenario where the Wii version can't be considered the most worthwhile, or a situation where developers put as much effort in as Ubisoft Quebec did (which somehow apparently was more effort than the A-Team working on the other version).

On the multiplat side?? yeah it is im not talking about whatever exclusive game would have been made for Wii. But i can probably think of maybe 5 games that are actually BETTER on Wii than they are on PS360. If you can think of more i would like to hear them.

As for PoP ill take your word for it, never played any version. But something is to be said for it selling the worst of them all. Not sure what you are saying though, if the HD versions would have been better the game would have sold more?? Well yeah, that wont mean it would really translate sales to Wii version


Pretty sure the DS version sold worse, but that's irrelevant. The Wii version sold poorly compared to the other home console versions, but the cause is open to interpretation. Sales aren't dependant on a single factor. I could try and make a case that if third-party developers (and especially publishers) realized that the Wii was more powerful than the GameCube and actually had good ideas, the Wii third-party ecosystem would be healthier and a larger amount of people would be interested in "good in its own way" Wii versions of games. But that's a total what if scenario.

I wish that the 360/PS3 versions were better (not necessarily better than the Wii version, but just plain better than what they are). I'm not so fanboyish as to wish inferiority on anything that isn't on the all-conquering Wii. I just want every version to be as good as it could be. Nothing more, nothing less. Maybe sales will follow, maybe not. I'm the optimist who thinks that the result would be positive for everyone.



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happydolphin on 01 November 2012

*like*



F0X on 01 November 2012
happydolphin said:
oniyide said:

On the multiplat side?? yeah it is im not talking about whatever exclusive game would have been made for Wii. But i can probably think of maybe 5 games that are actually BETTER on Wii than they are on PS360. If you can think of more i would like to hear them.

As for PoP ill take your word for it, never played any version. But something is to be said for it selling the worst of them all. Not sure what you are saying though, if the HD versions would have been better the game would have sold more?? Well yeah, that wont mean it would really translate sales to Wii version

I'm curious of the 5 games.

FOX, what do you mean by No More Heroes being the better Star Wars game?


I'm joking. Sort of. No More Heroes is about a guy who buys a *insert synonym for lightsaber here* over the internet and then becomes an assassin. The blood-soaked *insert lightsaber synonym here*-based combat was surprisingly fun, perhaps because most attacks are performed by pressing the A button rather than flicking the remote around.



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happydolphin on 01 November 2012
F0X said:

I'm joking. Sort of. No More Heroes is about a guy who buys a *insert synonym for lightsaber here* over the internet and then becomes an assassin. The blood-soaked *insert lightsaber synonym here*-based combat was surprising fun, perhaps because most attacks are performed be pressing the A button rather than flicking the remote around.

Gotcha. :3



oniyide on 01 November 2012
happydolphin said:
oniyide said:

On the multiplat side?? yeah it is im not talking about whatever exclusive game would have been made for Wii. But i can probably think of maybe 5 games that are actually BETTER on Wii than they are on PS360. If you can think of more i would like to hear them.

As for PoP ill take your word for it, never played any version. But something is to be said for it selling the worst of them all. Not sure what you are saying though, if the HD versions would have been better the game would have sold more?? Well yeah, that wont mean it would really translate sales to Wii version

I'm curious of the 5 games.

FOX, what do you mean by No More Heroes being the better Star Wars game?

truth be told that was just a number. I can only think of two. Sonic Unleashed the irony of that game is because the HD version was doing more (better visuals, faster gameplay) it actually hurt the version. Sonic was TOO fast on those and he was even harder to control. and the Wii version didnt have the dumb hub world. But that game sucked anyway. and PoP cause thats what everyone says. I never actually played it so for all i know they could be full of it



F0X on 01 November 2012
oniyide said:
happydolphin said:
oniyide said:

On the multiplat side?? yeah it is im not talking about whatever exclusive game would have been made for Wii. But i can probably think of maybe 5 games that are actually BETTER on Wii than they are on PS360. If you can think of more i would like to hear them.

As for PoP ill take your word for it, never played any version. But something is to be said for it selling the worst of them all. Not sure what you are saying though, if the HD versions would have been better the game would have sold more?? Well yeah, that wont mean it would really translate sales to Wii version

I'm curious of the 5 games.

FOX, what do you mean by No More Heroes being the better Star Wars game?

truth be told that was just a number. I can only think of two. Sonic Unleashed the irony of that game is because the HD version was doing more (better visuals, faster gameplay) it actually hurt the version. Sonic was TOO fast on those and he was even harder to control. and the Wii version didnt have the dumb hub world. But that game sucked anyway. and PoP cause thats what everyone says. I never actually played it so for all i know they could be full of it


*has been waiting for this*

Comparison time? I say so.

Wii version (runs at 60 FPS):

360 Version:

Both look nice, but the 360 version has the technical edge. I liked the Wii version's aestetics more, but that is definitely down to taste. Either way the Wii version looks better than most games on the system, including those COD ports which, I believe, run at 30 FPS (and not consistently).

It hurts my brain.



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oniyide on 01 November 2012

well to be fair COD is bit more demanding on the systems than PoP is



happydolphin on 01 November 2012
F0X said:

Both look nice, but the 360 version has the technical edge. I liked the Wii version's aestetics more, but that is definitely down to taste. Either way the Wii version looks better than most games on the system, including those COD ports which, I believe, run at 30 FPS (and not consistently).

It hurts my brain.

Herein lies the million dollar question. If the aesthetics have a higher value than visual fidelity, in cases where gameplay isn't as dependent on high definition, could the Wii offer a platform where games are more dense in creative appeal at a better price?

And even if a game had a higher intrinsic value (quality), does that guarantee a higher selling power? What is good and what people buy, do these match?