Maybe it's been said already but it deserves to be repeated: If God didn't want you to be raped, he wouldn't have created rapists.







*looks in mirror* You disgust me.

fetus: "an unborn or unhatched vertebrate especially after attaining the basic structural plan of its kind; specifically : a developing human from usually two months after conception to birth"

baby: "an extremely young child; especially : infant"

Before my daughter was born, she was a fetus. After she was born, she was a baby. I believe that the moment of birth is when someone becomes a person. And I believe that pregnant women, not the government, should make the decision of whether or not to terminate a fetus.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fetus

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/baby

If I was that woman of course I wouldn't want to bear that child or give it birth. It's a nightmare.

But if you sincerely believe life is very special (some might call it holy), that even aborting a 1 day old embryo is wrong, and you think that even embryos deserve protection by society, then what else can you advocate?

Naturally, if you are pro-life and pretend to be a humane and loving person you should also advocate for society to provide with the best possible care and support for that woman, including all expenses paid of course.

that is an astonishingly arbitrary definition you have of what a human is.

i know what a fetus is, just as i know what a adult is. but what you are esentially saying is, im not a human, im an adult.

fetus= unborn baby human

baby= new born human

teen= young human

etc.

all human, all deserve to live.

She doesn't have to actively terminate it, she could just continue her life without consideration for it and it'd probably die naturally.  If she was a smoker and/or drinker and didn't quit, or she continue having an active/athletic lifestyle for too long.  The reason abortion is chosen is that it's a clinical procedure and is therefore safer for the mother, but the important part is that this isn't something that she can deal with without changing how she previously lived, so it's definitely forced charity.  The fetus is not violating her right by choice (it doesn't have any yet) but it is by its existence.

You're right, the fetus is not being given a choice in this matter, but unfortunately I can't ask the fetus to weigh in on the matter, and if I could I'd likely have a different viewpoint on the whole thing.  So without that to go on I think the decision should be left to the conscious person most affected by the decision: the rape victim.  

Even 7, 8 or 9 months old fetuses? If society would allow that then I would be burning down abortion clinics and doing all kinds of civil disobedience.

It`s also about dignity and respect. A baby cannot live without the support too.
No human should be treated less because he can`t fully express his humanity. Human life is valuable since inception.

No, we don`t know what will come out of her carrying out the pregnancy, like we don`t know how people will handle every other problem in their lives. What we know is that when a life is terminated, that`s it. It`s a certainty that it`s all over.
You are right, i don`t know exactly what she needs to overcome, so i`ll just say what people need to overcome their problems: strength, love, trust, support, etc. I`d add God, but like everything it`s up to people to open themselves to faith.
What i do know, is that there`s nothing that God gives us that we can`t handle it, even the hardest things. What we must always avoid is basing actions on suffering. Because those are the realities we choose, for whatever happens in our lifes.

kids until the age of 18years old should be able to be aborted, we need less government not more
Mitt/Obama 2012

But a baby can be transferred to another parent, that isn't true of a fetus.  Human life is valuable, but so is the life and freedom of the raped woman, and I've decided to err on her side for this instance because I believe it minimizes human suffering.

I don't believe in god, therefore the idea that anything he gives us can be handled doesn't really matter to me.  The only person who gave anything in this instance was a rapist.  You shouldn't force another problem on the rape victim with the idea that she'll overcome it, or be stronger for it, that shouldn't be your choice to make.  

Any of those actions she takes are known to risk or cause death to the fetus, so it would be effectively the same as actively terminating it, though.  And I was referring to charity in terms of participating vs. not participating.  That is, if I don't give someone food, for example, my lack of action is not what caused them to starve to death.  Whereas, in this case, the lack is exactly what causes it.  

And the contention one might raise with that is that, either way, someone has to give up something.  And one of them cannot choose in the matter, so it would be a violation of its rights to choose for it.