Not sure what you're babbling about... anyhow...

Avengers wasn't a pile of shit, it was just tolerable and had some fun moments. Batman on the other hand was unbelievably fucking boring. Tears down my face boring!

Glad I'm not a director. It would ruin most movies for me.
Lucky for me I am not educated enough in film to see any faults.

Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize I was talking to a film aficionado. I'm not sure why you're surprised I responded. It wouldn't have been courteous to just ignore you.

3 Men and a Baby was good. Kindergarten Cop was amazing. Those Naked Gun movies still make me laugh. Die Hard was great...

Anyhow, Dark Knight Rises was a boring piece of crap. No big deal buddy. They should make movies out the Batman Arkham games. That is a much more interesting Batman universe.

i loved the avengers movie, i hated the dark knight rises . simple as that.

Haven't seen The Avengers yet, but The Dark Knight Rises was epic. Granted not as epic as The Dark Knight, which is easily one of the best movies of all time, but still a good bit better than Batman Begins.

Christopher Nolan is just so incredibly talented. Looking forward to his next movies.

I enjoyed both, two of the best super hero films I've seen. I do not even begin to understand people forming "camps" and bickering between the two. Be like if they finally make good video game movies someday, just glad it happened and enjoy it.

All I can do is wonder what people expected out of The Avengers. It's a table-setter film, I assumed everyone knew that. I thought it was OK, if a bit on the generic side, but the very end was enough to make me excited about where the Avengers series of films is headed. We have one of the better villains of all time coming up. The actual story appears to have just begun.

Also, it should be pretty obvious that movies about groups of superheros aren't going to have the same kind of personal depth as films about individual superheroes. In that regard, they really shouldn't be compared. Just like in the comics they're inspired by, team-based storylines are going to be more about action and less about introspection.

I wouldn't call it appalling but I kinda agree.

Avengers was visually so impressive that it did have that craziness and over the top sensation comic books offer more than any other super hero movie but apart from that the movie was flat due to the fact that there was no real conflict, no real drama, no real tension what-so-ever. It was more of a shameless fanservice extravaganza.

I mean at no point was anything in the movie at peril. It was like having half a dozen of supermen who never even for a second knelled down or missed or lost power. They didn't avenge anything, it was a matter of when they would show up. Kinda boring really.

Loki was just...pointless. At no point was he menacing or really achieved anything.

The Hulk, Iron Man, Captain America all actually struggled in their respective movies. In Avengers... it was a walk in the park

I loved both movies, I probably enjoyed TDKR more overall but The Avengers was a great movie as well. Also the two movies are much different, The Avengers is an action comedy meant to bring smiles and TDKR is a serious action movie trying to pull off a thrilling story. This guy is too serious.

I'm not talking about Loki.  I'm talking about the real villain of the Avengers films.

And I'm almost certain Loki intended to lose and that things worked out exactly as planned.  The invaders never were supposed to win.  The film even makes a point of reminding us that Loki never, ever cared about being ruler of earth.  From the looks of things, we might be headed into Infinity Gauntlet territory.