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Its fairly obvious that Sony has removed itself from the whole "console war" or bragging rights competition. Putting Nintendo aside, after going from 150+ mil sold vs 24 mil for Xbox, to LOSING by a few mil in PS3 vs 360, you think Sony gives a rats about technicalities NOW? Sony's already "lost", BIG TIME, in that regard (MS is new "hardcore king" in the US. trends show EUR will follow soon). Its all about making profits now for Sony, and you can't blame them. Matter of fact, I commend them for not following in the price cut, since they still have that blu ray advantage (lol) over the competition, along w/free online play (vs XBL) so they still have more to offer.



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se7en7thre3 said:

Its fairly obvious that Sony has removed itself from the whole "console war" or bragging rights competition. Putting Nintendo aside, after going from 150+ mil sold vs 24 mil for Xbox, to LOSING by a few mil in PS3 vs 360, you think Sony gives a rats about technicalities NOW? Sony's already "lost", BIG TIME, in that regard (MS is new "hardcore king" in the US. trends show EUR will follow soon). Its all about making profits now for Sony, and you can't blame them. Matter of fact, I commend them for not following in the price cut, since they still have that blu ray advantage (lol) over the competition, along w/free online play (vs XBL) so they still have more to offer.

 

What trends are those?



sales2099 said:
maverick40 said:
Another bullshit Sony is doomed thread.

Nobody said doomed. The article says Sony could lose the holiday sales war. They can still sell a decent amount and make profit, but would still lose to Nintendo and MS.


Sony always loses in the holidays. Why state the obvious? Oh right because its cool to say Sony is doomed these days.



Blood_Tears said:
se7en7thre3 said:

Its fairly obvious that Sony has removed itself from the whole "console war" or bragging rights competition. Putting Nintendo aside, after going from 150+ mil sold vs 24 mil for Xbox, to LOSING by a few mil in PS3 vs 360, you think Sony gives a rats about technicalities NOW? Sony's already "lost", BIG TIME, in that regard (MS is new "hardcore king" in the US. trends show EUR will follow soon). Its all about making profits now for Sony, and you can't blame them. Matter of fact, I commend them for not following in the price cut, since they still have that blu ray advantage (lol) over the competition, along w/free online play (vs XBL) so they still have more to offer.

 

What trends are those?

You know the trend of how PS3 is selling over double what the 360 is selling in Europe right now..oh wait...



maverick40 said:
sales2099 said:
maverick40 said:
Another bullshit Sony is doomed thread.

Nobody said doomed. The article says Sony could lose the holiday sales war. They can still sell a decent amount and make profit, but would still lose to Nintendo and MS.


The ps3 has been the best selling home console mostly every week this year, why would this change?? Halo 4 will boost Microsoft and the Wii U obviously but it won't loose market share. That is bollox.  

I know you don't leik ps3 doomed threads but the very reasonable OP article was about that the others are having pricecuts for the holidays and the ps3 doesn't have one.. and analyst, like it's their job, then may say that the others are in a better position for the holidays... which could be true



 

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sales2099 said:
maverick40 said:
sales2099 said:
maverick40 said:
Another bullshit Sony is doomed thread.

Nobody said doomed. The article says Sony could lose the holiday sales war. They can still sell a decent amount and make profit, but would still lose to Nintendo and MS.


The ps3 has been the best selling home console mostly every week this year, why would this change?? Halo 4 will boost Microsoft and the Wii U obviously but it won't loose market share. That is bollox.  

January - October in 2010/2011 had the same setup, until November and december that is. All signs point to the exact same outcome as the last 2 years.

Yeah that is cool and all but they still won't loose market share to Microsoft or Nintendo. If it hasn't happened before, it won't happend again until next generation. This articles is shit. 



Blood_Tears said:
se7en7thre3 said:

Its fairly obvious that Sony has removed itself from the whole "console war" or bragging rights competition. Putting Nintendo aside, after going from 150+ mil sold vs 24 mil for Xbox, to LOSING by a few mil in PS3 vs 360, you think Sony gives a rats about technicalities NOW? Sony's already "lost", BIG TIME, in that regard (MS is new "hardcore king" in the US. trends show EUR will follow soon). Its all about making profits now for Sony, and you can't blame them. Matter of fact, I commend them for not following in the price cut, since they still have that blu ray advantage (lol) over the competition, along w/free online play (vs XBL) so they still have more to offer.

 

What trends are those?

Not just the trend of Xbox's growth in EUR, but about how in GENERAL, the US sets the trends, and the Euros follow.  Aside from Soccer vs. NFL, every one knows Europe follows American culture, so we won't even debate that fact.  

The only place where they won't follow the US trends, are territories that are known for being more "xenophobic", like Japan, who will never embrace Xbox. It won't matter however, and Sony from here on out is locked in 3rd place. MS will continue separating itself from Sony, because they have taken over the US.  That means more Americans will "wise up", and follow their friends, going with the more powerful Microsoft brand vs Sony's fledgling brand.  As this perception and trend increases, it will affect Europe, NO QUESTION about it.   buts Its only my (humble, worthless) opinion, & you all are free to disagree.



maverick40 said:
sales2099 said:
maverick40 said:
sales2099 said:
maverick40 said:
Another bullshit Sony is doomed thread.

Nobody said doomed. The article says Sony could lose the holiday sales war. They can still sell a decent amount and make profit, but would still lose to Nintendo and MS.


The ps3 has been the best selling home console mostly every week this year, why would this change?? Halo 4 will boost Microsoft and the Wii U obviously but it won't loose market share. That is bollox.  

January - October in 2010/2011 had the same setup, until November and december that is. All signs point to the exact same outcome as the last 2 years.

Yeah that is cool and all but they still won't loose market share to Microsoft or Nintendo. If it hasn't happened before, it won't happend again until next generation. This articles is shit. 

Selling less is actually the definition of losing marketshare.....



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VGKing said:
Blood_Tears said:
se7en7thre3 said:

Its fairly obvious that Sony has removed itself from the whole "console war" or bragging rights competition. Putting Nintendo aside, after going from 150+ mil sold vs 24 mil for Xbox, to LOSING by a few mil in PS3 vs 360, you think Sony gives a rats about technicalities NOW? Sony's already "lost", BIG TIME, in that regard (MS is new "hardcore king" in the US. trends show EUR will follow soon). Its all about making profits now for Sony, and you can't blame them. Matter of fact, I commend them for not following in the price cut, since they still have that blu ray advantage (lol) over the competition, along w/free online play (vs XBL) so they still have more to offer.

 

What trends are those?

You know the trend of how PS3 is selling over double what the 360 is selling in Europe right now..oh wait...

Nice. Counting a week bump of Fifa and a 12 gb slim. But 360 has made significant inroads in Europe since last gen buddy



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The automatic assumptions that this is a doom thread are fairly amusing, but this isn't one. Not really, at least.

If you'll notice, pretty much all of the people they've quoted are all from tech analysis, marketing companies and asset holding groups. They're speaking from the standpoint of the market and are predicting what's going on, likely for investors and customers who pay them to try and figure out what's going to happen in the near future. They're basing their assumptions on reasonable facts that lowered prices from MS and Nintendo and not from Sony leads to more people buying the lower priced things. This isn't exactly college level economics or even all that provocative. I'm almost sure they don't give a crap about the 'console war' and what not.