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curl-6 said:
sperrico87 said:
PDF said:

I would abort the woman for giving birth to a defective child. Obviously wasn't my genes.

 

Edit:  On a serious note, I would not.  I could not live with myself knowing I stopped another from living because of my own selfish interets.


Thank you! There is a serious lack of decency and character in this thread.  It's very disheartening.

What's disheartening is you making these kind of unwarranted insults. Believe what you want, but don't attack others for not agreeing with you.

Casually disregarding and throwing away life warrants an insult or two, though I'm not sure questioning character or decency qualifies as an insult based on some of the abhorrent comments I've seen made in this thread.



 

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sperrico87 said:
curl-6 said:
sperrico87 said:
PDF said:

I would abort the woman for giving birth to a defective child. Obviously wasn't my genes.

 

Edit:  On a serious note, I would not.  I could not live with myself knowing I stopped another from living because of my own selfish interets.


Thank you! There is a serious lack of decency and character in this thread.  It's very disheartening.

What's disheartening is you making these kind of unwarranted insults. Believe what you want, but don't attack others for not agreeing with you.

Casually disregarding and throwing away life warrants an insult or two, though I'm not sure questioning character or decency qualifies as an insult based on some of the abhorrent comments I've seen made in this thread.

You can't make it personal, though. Breaks the bounds of forum rules.

I'm not going to moderate it, but you can't be attacking folks, indirectly or no.



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Mr Khan said:
sperrico87 said:
curl-6 said:
sperrico87 said:
PDF said:

I would abort the woman for giving birth to a defective child. Obviously wasn't my genes.

 

Edit:  On a serious note, I would not.  I could not live with myself knowing I stopped another from living because of my own selfish interets.


Thank you! There is a serious lack of decency and character in this thread.  It's very disheartening.

What's disheartening is you making these kind of unwarranted insults. Believe what you want, but don't attack others for not agreeing with you.

Casually disregarding and throwing away life warrants an insult or two, though I'm not sure questioning character or decency qualifies as an insult based on some of the abhorrent comments I've seen made in this thread.

You can't make it personal, though. Breaks the bounds of forum rules.

I'm not going to moderate it, but you can't be attacking folks, indirectly or no.

Very well.



 

sperrico87 said:
curl-6 said:
sperrico87 said:
PDF said:

I would abort the woman for giving birth to a defective child. Obviously wasn't my genes.

 

Edit:  On a serious note, I would not.  I could not live with myself knowing I stopped another from living because of my own selfish interets.


Thank you! There is a serious lack of decency and character in this thread.  It's very disheartening.

What's disheartening is you making these kind of unwarranted insults. Believe what you want, but don't attack others for not agreeing with you.

Casually disregarding and throwing away life warrants an insult or two, though I'm not sure questioning character or decency qualifies as an insult based on some of the abhorrent comments I've seen made in this thread.

No, it doesn't.

Here's your problem; you're applying your belief system to others, and insulting them based on that. Not everyone shares your opinion that a foetus in early development or just a fertilized egg constitutes a human life. You need to respect that others have different views. You have every right to respectfully disagree, but your ad hominem attacks are uncalled for.

The forum rules clearly state:

"Attacking other users for any reason is never acceptable.'

 

  • "respect the beliefs and opinions of others."

  • "Do not personally insult other users."
EDIT: NINJA'D.

 



sperrico87 said:
curl-6 said:
sperrico87 said:
PDF said:

I would abort the woman for giving birth to a defective child. Obviously wasn't my genes.

 

Edit:  On a serious note, I would not.  I could not live with myself knowing I stopped another from living because of my own selfish interets.


Thank you! There is a serious lack of decency and character in this thread.  It's very disheartening.

What's disheartening is you making these kind of unwarranted insults. Believe what you want, but don't attack others for not agreeing with you.

Casually disregarding and throwing away life warrants an insult or two, though I'm not sure questioning character or decency qualifies as an insult based on some of the abhorrent comments I've seen made in this thread.

But aren't you casually throwing away the lives that could have been saved with cloned embryo stemcell research?



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curl-6 said:

No, it doesn't.

Here's your problem; you're applying your belief system to others, and insulting them based on that. Not everyone shares your opinion that a foetus in early development or just a fertilized egg constitutes a human life. You need to respect that others have different views. You have every right to respectfully disagree, but your ad hominem attacks are uncalled for.

The forum rules clearly state:

"Attacking other users for any reason is never acceptable.'

 

  • "respect the beliefs and opinions of others."

  • "Do not personally insult other users."
EDIT: NINJA'D.

 

All I have to say to you is have a nice day.



 

sperrico87 said:
Mr Khan said:
sperrico87 said:
curl-6 said:
sperrico87 said:
PDF said:

I would abort the woman for giving birth to a defective child. Obviously wasn't my genes.

 

Edit:  On a serious note, I would not.  I could not live with myself knowing I stopped another from living because of my own selfish interets.


Thank you! There is a serious lack of decency and character in this thread.  It's very disheartening.

What's disheartening is you making these kind of unwarranted insults. Believe what you want, but don't attack others for not agreeing with you.

Casually disregarding and throwing away life warrants an insult or two, though I'm not sure questioning character or decency qualifies as an insult based on some of the abhorrent comments I've seen made in this thread.

You can't make it personal, though. Breaks the bounds of forum rules.

I'm not going to moderate it, but you can't be attacking folks, indirectly or no.

Very well.

what a joke. People can talk about using close hangers, murdering innocent lives, but comments about being sickened by that is against the rules?

keep up the good fight.



KungKras said:
sperrico87 said:
curl-6 said:
sperrico87 said:
PDF said:

I would abort the woman for giving birth to a defective child. Obviously wasn't my genes.

 

Edit:  On a serious note, I would not.  I could not live with myself knowing I stopped another from living because of my own selfish interets.


Thank you! There is a serious lack of decency and character in this thread.  It's very disheartening.

What's disheartening is you making these kind of unwarranted insults. Believe what you want, but don't attack others for not agreeing with you.

Casually disregarding and throwing away life warrants an insult or two, though I'm not sure questioning character or decency qualifies as an insult based on some of the abhorrent comments I've seen made in this thread.

But aren't you casually throwing away the lives that could have been saved with cloned embryo stemcell research?

Yeah, but the problem is, the life you say is being thrown away has already been born.



 

killerzX said:
sperrico87 said:
Mr Khan said:
sperrico87 said:
curl-6 said:
sperrico87 said:
PDF said:

I would abort the woman for giving birth to a defective child. Obviously wasn't my genes.

 

Edit:  On a serious note, I would not.  I could not live with myself knowing I stopped another from living because of my own selfish interets.


Thank you! There is a serious lack of decency and character in this thread.  It's very disheartening.

What's disheartening is you making these kind of unwarranted insults. Believe what you want, but don't attack others for not agreeing with you.

Casually disregarding and throwing away life warrants an insult or two, though I'm not sure questioning character or decency qualifies as an insult based on some of the abhorrent comments I've seen made in this thread.

You can't make it personal, though. Breaks the bounds of forum rules.

I'm not going to moderate it, but you can't be attacking folks, indirectly or no.

Very well.

what a joke. People can talk about using close hangers, murdering innocent lives, but comments about being sickened by that is against the rules?

keep up the good fight.

That it's at all murder is your opinion. An opinion many others (including the law in many cases) do not share. Attacking someone because they have a different opinion is unacceptable. Disagree all you want, but don't make personal insults.



TheLivingShadow said:

Well apparently nobody wanted to have a go at my statements before. The guy who I responded to chose to ignore my message. Oh well.

First off, KungKras, you're awesome for having read Sam Harris Landscape book. It is quite well done. I kind of agree with you on the invaluability of human "mentally capable" life, except when compared to other human "mentally capable" lives. Of course, all other things being equal, the lives of two people are better than the life of one.

^_^
I lean towards greather quantities of sentient life being more valuable than smaller quantities as well. Except it get complicated when you pit the lives of two dictators against a farmer in china.

I didn't read the middle of the thread, so I didn't see the early discussions. Anyway, since the other people refused, I'll have a go at the statements.

1. There's nothing special about life in general.

Disagree. Chemically speaking, there is a lot that makes life special. Its rarity in the universe also makes it special. And when we begin talking about sentient life, the special meter goes through the roof.

2. The consumption and use of animals and plants, but especially animals, by humans is not morally wrong.

I'm torn on this. I'm convinced that cows and cats and the like have some form of conciousness, thus making them invaluable. But I wouldn't fault a tiger for killing a deer.

3. All life dies and there is nothing after life (i.e. no Heaven, Hell, or anything)

Seems to be the most likely

I believe from saying True to all these three statements, through reasonable logic you arrive at:c                                  

4. There's nothing wrong with pre-selection of humans under the condition that it's only done on consideration of mental ability.

I'll go farther than that. If the child is to be born into poverty, and the mother got accidentally pregnant and having a child would have serious ramifications for her life, I see no problem with her aborting it before it develops a mesurable brain activity and thus becomes an irreplacable person.



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