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watsuke said:
Soundwave said:
Wii U -- Definitive platform for Puddle fans.

It's going to be funny in 6-12 months time, Nintendo fans are going to go back to saying "graphics don't matter" once the 720/PS4 are unveiled.

All this bickering for nothing.


You don't understand. It's not about being the most powerful console, unless it's a time when Nintendo has the most powerful console. It's also not about graphics, unless Nintendo has the best graphics. Its always about the games, whenever Nintendo releases a new Mario game.


That is incorrect. It is always about the games, always. That has never changed.

We are simply calling Nintendo haters out on the their hypocrisy now, but some how they have spun that into "us" flip flopping...

We aren't "bragging" about better graphics now. We hitting the PS3 and 360 acolites with their own logic to show them how ridiculous it all was when they would hate on the Wii for not being HD, not having the best graphics, not having online accounts or not having the big named multi-plats as if that is all that matters.

The biggest thing is that they made it clear that a lot of them were adamant about only gaming on the strongest console.  Now a console with better graphics and more features is announced and they aren't following suit with their own logic and statements of ridicule. Demonstrating this is all there is too it.

So, when the currently nonexistent PS4 and 720 that they keep throwing calls to in defense finally come out, they better hang up talking about how much better they are do to their higher performance beause they proved that its not the real reason at with all of their responses to claims of Wii U games having better graphics or the console getting the best versions of multiplats and exslusives.



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lilbroex said:


That is incorrect. It is always about the game, always. it has never changed.

We are simply calling Nintendo haters out the their hypocrisy now. Some how they have spun that into "us" flip flopping.

We aren't "bragging" about better graphics now. We hitting the PS3 and 360 acolites with there own logic to show them how ridiculous it all was when they would hate on the Wii for not being HD, not having the best graphics, not has the big named game as if that is all that matters.

The biggest thing is that they made it clear that a lot of them were adamant about only gaming on the strongest console.  Now a console with better graphics and more features is announced and they aren't following suit with their own logic and statements of ridicule. Us demonstrating this is all there is too it.

So, when the currently nonexistent PS4 and 720 that they keep throwing calls to in defense finally come out, they better hang up talking about how much better they are do to their higher performance.


So you're basically fighting fire with fire and by doing so turning into exactly what you hate.  I'm sorry, but that logic really only works for one or two threads in my mind.  You're flip flopping what you care about in response to someone else's perceived flip flopping, but that still means you're flip flopping.  Just changes the reason you are, and I'm sure everyone has reasons for why they change what they care about.  



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Torillian said:
lilbroex said:


That is incorrect. It is always about the game, always. it has never changed.

We are simply calling Nintendo haters out the their hypocrisy now. Some how they have spun that into "us" flip flopping.

We aren't "bragging" about better graphics now. We hitting the PS3 and 360 acolites with there own logic to show them how ridiculous it all was when they would hate on the Wii for not being HD, not having the best graphics, not has the big named game as if that is all that matters.

The biggest thing is that they made it clear that a lot of them were adamant about only gaming on the strongest console.  Now a console with better graphics and more features is announced and they aren't following suit with their own logic and statements of ridicule. Us demonstrating this is all there is too it.

So, when the currently nonexistent PS4 and 720 that they keep throwing calls to in defense finally come out, they better hang up talking about how much better they are do to their higher performance.


So you're basically fighting fire with fire and by doing so turning into exactly what you hate.  I'm sorry, but that logic really only works for one or two threads in my mind.  You're flip flopping what you care about in response to someone else's perceived flip flopping, but that still means you're flip flopping.  Just changes the reason you are, and I'm sure everyone has reasons for why they change what they care about.  

...no, the entire point of that comment you just quoted was to point out that what you are saying "isn't" what I'm doing.

Nothing has changed. Their is no flip flopping. Graphics are no more important to me than they were 5 years ago. I didn't like 90% of muli-plats and I still don't.

Its about exposing the hypocrisy of others by hitting them with their own "logic", not adopting their behavior. They made claims that they knew were not true. I'm calling them out for not heeding their own words. That has nothing to do with why I post the threads though.



lilbroex said:
Torillian said:
lilbroex said:


That is incorrect. It is always about the game, always. it has never changed.

We are simply calling Nintendo haters out the their hypocrisy now. Some how they have spun that into "us" flip flopping.

We aren't "bragging" about better graphics now. We hitting the PS3 and 360 acolites with there own logic to show them how ridiculous it all was when they would hate on the Wii for not being HD, not having the best graphics, not has the big named game as if that is all that matters.

The biggest thing is that they made it clear that a lot of them were adamant about only gaming on the strongest console.  Now a console with better graphics and more features is announced and they aren't following suit with their own logic and statements of ridicule. Us demonstrating this is all there is too it.

So, when the currently nonexistent PS4 and 720 that they keep throwing calls to in defense finally come out, they better hang up talking about how much better they are do to their higher performance.


So you're basically fighting fire with fire and by doing so turning into exactly what you hate.  I'm sorry, but that logic really only works for one or two threads in my mind.  You're flip flopping what you care about in response to someone else's perceived flip flopping, but that still means you're flip flopping.  Just changes the reason you are, and I'm sure everyone has reasons for why they change what they care about.  

...no, the entire point of that comment you just quoted was to point out that what you are saying "isn't" what I'm doing.


So you're telling me that you all these threads focused on the graphics potential of the Wii U, but you don't actually care about it?  I find that hard to believe.  If all you want to do is disprove people you think are being hypocrytical then go talk to them, that's what walls are for.  And how do you define bragging?  I think saying "best version of _____" could quite easily be described as bragging.  

Again, if you have some issue with some fans, go argue with them, but there's no need to make thread upon thread trying to disprove some generic argument you are applying to a whole group of fans.  



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Torillian said:
lilbroex said:
Torillian said:
lilbroex said:


That is incorrect. It is always about the game, always. it has never changed.

We are simply calling Nintendo haters out the their hypocrisy now. Some how they have spun that into "us" flip flopping.

We aren't "bragging" about better graphics now. We hitting the PS3 and 360 acolites with there own logic to show them how ridiculous it all was when they would hate on the Wii for not being HD, not having the best graphics, not has the big named game as if that is all that matters.

The biggest thing is that they made it clear that a lot of them were adamant about only gaming on the strongest console.  Now a console with better graphics and more features is announced and they aren't following suit with their own logic and statements of ridicule. Us demonstrating this is all there is too it.

So, when the currently nonexistent PS4 and 720 that they keep throwing calls to in defense finally come out, they better hang up talking about how much better they are do to their higher performance.


So you're basically fighting fire with fire and by doing so turning into exactly what you hate.  I'm sorry, but that logic really only works for one or two threads in my mind.  You're flip flopping what you care about in response to someone else's perceived flip flopping, but that still means you're flip flopping.  Just changes the reason you are, and I'm sure everyone has reasons for why they change what they care about.  

...no, the entire point of that comment you just quoted was to point out that what you are saying "isn't" what I'm doing.


So you're telling me that you all these threads focused on the graphics potential of the Wii U, but you don't actually care about it?  I find that hard to believe.  If all you want to do is disprove people you think are being hypocrytical then go talk to them, that's what walls are for.  And how do you define bragging?  I think saying "best version of _____" could quite easily be described as bragging.  

Again, if you have some issue with some fans, go argue with them, but there's no need to make thread upon thread trying to disprove some generic argument you are applying to a whole group of fans.  

Reread the post, I clarified those things but you quoted me before I could submit the additions.

 

As for "all these thread focused on the graphics potential of the Wii U" These are just reports that I found at random. I do not write them and they are not my opinions, I just post them.

I try to post any uncovered news about the console do to the lack of coverage of Wii U news I see on here. If you see a lot of graphics thread then that means that people have been writing a lot of graphics news. Back when AC3 was the big topic I posted a lot of AC3 thread, because their were a  lot of AC3 articles.

I'm not out their looking for any specific "type" of news aside from it being new.

If its new info and it hasn't been discussed yet, then I post it.



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"it's only about the games"

a game is: sound, gameplay, art, graphics, music, story, whatever more...

so "it is only about the games" is the case for every god damn console and game, the question is which parts of the games are more or less important for different people but everything is "the game". for some people story is important in games so mario is shit for them, for some people something else is important so halo or uncharted is shit for them...



crissindahouse said:



the question is which parts of the games are more or less important


Not for me. I consider it all important within a given scope (saturation in the market, console strength, userbase, etc.)



lilbroex said:
crissindahouse said:

"it's only about the games"

a game is: sound, gameplay, art, graphics, music, story, whatever more...

so "it is only about the games" is the case for every god damn console and game, the question is which parts of the games are more or less important for different people but everything is "the game". for some people story is important in games so mario is shit for them, for some people something else is important so halo or uncharted is shit for them...


Not for me. I consider it all important within a given scope (saturation in the market, console strength, userbase, etc.)

so you say graphics don't matter for nintendo fans and games do, then i say graphics are a part of a game so they also matter but for everyone different like story (which is shit in some mario games as example), gameplay or music and then you say for you everything is important which would include graphics because that's what i mentioned?

graphics are a part of a game so saying graphics don't matter but games do makes no sense.

and yes i put my whole post back in the quote tree and not only the sentence you took out of it.




lilbroex said:
crissindahouse said:

"it's only about the games"

a game is: sound, gameplay, art, graphics, music, story, whatever more...

so "it is only about the games" is the case for every god damn console and game, the question is which parts of the games are more or less important for different people but everything is "the game". for some people story is important in games so mario is shit for them, for some people something else is important so halo or uncharted is shit for them...


Not for me. I consider it all important within a given scope (saturation in the market, console strength, userbase, etc.)

 


In the case of things you pointed out, the WiiU is the worst console version of any game. 



Konami has betrayed us by putting this game on Wii-U, it has lost it's soul.



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’