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Wagram on 02 October 2012
Boutros said:
Wagram said:
Boutros said:
Galvanizer said:
Man, the last valid 40 from Famitsu using their old "strict" scoring system was FFXII. After that, they started selling out their scores for money.

I'm happy to see that high score for Bravely Default, though. It would be great if it sold more than KH3D in Japan.

In my opinion only these games getting a perfect score is justifiable:

  1. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (1998, Nintendo, for Nintendo 64)
  2. Soulcalibur (1999, Namco, for Dreamcast)
  3. Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (2008, Konami, for PlayStation 3)
  4. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (2011, Bethesda Softworks, for Xbox 360 & PlayStation 3) - the first non-Japanese game to receive a perfect score.

 

Not these ones:

  1. Nintendogs (2005, Nintendo, for Nintendo DS)
  2. 428: Fūsa Sareta Shibuya de (2008, Sega, for Wii)
  3. Monster Hunter Tri (2009, Capcom, for Wii)
  4. Final Fantasy XIII-2 (2011, Square Enix, for Xbox 360 & PlayStation 3)
  5. Kid Icarus: Uprising (2012, Nintendo, for Nintendo 3DS)

None of those games are worthy of a 40. Especially the bolded.

What games would be worthy of a 40 in your opinion?

FFX I agree.


Honestly, if I were to critically review professionally. I wouldn't give any game a 40 because that would imply they are perfect. I have yet to play a perfect game. FFVIII, FFX, and Star Ocean Till the End of time are among my all time favorites, but I can't say those are perfect.



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DigitalDevilSummoner on 07 October 2012

toki to towa did better than i expected and bravely default's score confirms that it's one of the 3DS big upcoming titles



JWeinCom on 07 October 2012
Boutros said:
Galvanizer said:
Man, the last valid 40 from Famitsu using their old "strict" scoring system was FFXII. After that, they started selling out their scores for money.

I'm happy to see that high score for Bravely Default, though. It would be great if it sold more than KH3D in Japan.

In my opinion only these games getting a perfect score is justifiable:

  1. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (1998, Nintendo, for Nintendo 64)
  2. Soulcalibur (1999, Namco, for Dreamcast)
  3. Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (2008, Konami, for PlayStation 3)
  4. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (2011, Bethesda Softworks, for Xbox 360 & PlayStation 3) - the first non-Japanese game to receive a perfect score.

 

Not these ones:

  1. Nintendogs (2005, Nintendo, for Nintendo DS)
  2. 428: Fūsa Sareta Shibuya de (2008, Sega, for Wii)
  3. Monster Hunter Tri (2009, Capcom, for Wii)
  4. Final Fantasy XIII-2 (2011, Square Enix, for Xbox 360 & PlayStation 3)
  5. Kid Icarus: Uprising (2012, Nintendo, for Nintendo 3DS)


I don't think Skyrim getting a perfect score is justifiable, just because of how glitchy the game is, and how poor combat (one of its central mechanics) is. Soul Calibur and Ocarina are fine.  Nintendogs and Tri are Justifiable.  Both of them do exactly what they set out to do, and they do it to perfection.  While Monster Hunter's style wasn't exactly my cup of tea, I don't see much room for improvement beyond nitpicking.  You can complain about a lack of accessibility, but that might be it.  Haven't played 428 of FFXIII2, but I have no problem with Kid Icarus as a 40/40.  Unique gameplay, incredible replay value, charm out the wazoo, and just plain fun.



outlawauron on 07 October 2012
Galvanizer said:
The thing is, Famitsu used to give out only one 40/40 per console. The last console to follow this strict rule was PS2 and the game that got the 40/40 was FFXII. Since the DS, they have changed their scoring policy. Now loads of games can get 40/40 on just one console. have you seen how much 40/40 games there have been in the last 4 years?

That's why I say that FFXII was the last game that really deserved the 40/40. It was the last game judged by Famitsu's harsh scoring policy.

You really have nothing to back up what you're saying. You like FF12 so it's last one that deserved it?

Famitsu never changed their scoring policy, and they've been averaging 1/year for a while now.



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VicViper on 07 October 2012
outlawauron said:
Galvanizer said:
The thing is, Famitsu used to give out only one 40/40 per console. The last console to follow this strict rule was PS2 and the game that got the 40/40 was FFXII. Since the DS, they have changed their scoring policy. Now loads of games can get 40/40 on just one console. have you seen how much 40/40 games there have been in the last 4 years?

That's why I say that FFXII was the last game that really deserved the 40/40. It was the last game judged by Famitsu's harsh scoring policy.

You really have nothing to back up what you're saying. You like FF12 so it's last one that deserved it?

Famitsu never changed their scoring policy, and they've been averaging 1/year for a while now.

1 - They have most likely changed, since scores now are much higher than before ( that nullifies the "never"). Famitsu started publishing in 1986. Until 2001 there were 6 games 39/40. From 2001 foward there are 27, not counting the explosion of perfect scores recently.

2 - Make that 3 per year. Only recent year that scored one perfect is 2012 (Kid Icarus) and the year is not over - pretty sure there will be more.

Marcus Beer (from Gametrailers) said in one of the previous Invisible Walls that he has proof famitsu scores are bought, that it's a very known fact in the industry. He worked on that area, PR.



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outlawauron on 07 October 2012
VicViper said:
outlawauron said:
Galvanizer said:
The thing is, Famitsu used to give out only one 40/40 per console. The last console to follow this strict rule was PS2 and the game that got the 40/40 was FFXII. Since the DS, they have changed their scoring policy. Now loads of games can get 40/40 on just one console. have you seen how much 40/40 games there have been in the last 4 years?

That's why I say that FFXII was the last game that really deserved the 40/40. It was the last game judged by Famitsu's harsh scoring policy.

You really have nothing to back up what you're saying. You like FF12 so it's last one that deserved it?

Famitsu never changed their scoring policy, and they've been averaging 1/year for a while now.

1 - They have most likely changed, since scores now are much higher than before ( that nullifies the "never")

2 - Make that 3 per year. Only recent year that scored one perfect is 2012 (Kid Icarus) and the year is not over - pretty sure there will be more.

When exactly did they change? Did the standards get more lax in 08 and 09 only to get harsher in 10? After that, they decided to be lax again? This year, they must have gotten tougher to earn, right?

How often do they vary from Western media? They don't. Every game they've given a perfect score to, other publications in the West have as well. That's why I find it funny that people discredit them, but it's mostly because it's the only Japanese publication that we hear about.



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VicViper on 07 October 2012
outlawauron said:
VicViper said:
outlawauron said:
Galvanizer said:
The thing is, Famitsu used to give out only one 40/40 per console. The last console to follow this strict rule was PS2 and the game that got the 40/40 was FFXII. Since the DS, they have changed their scoring policy. Now loads of games can get 40/40 on just one console. have you seen how much 40/40 games there have been in the last 4 years?

That's why I say that FFXII was the last game that really deserved the 40/40. It was the last game judged by Famitsu's harsh scoring policy.

You really have nothing to back up what you're saying. You like FF12 so it's last one that deserved it?

Famitsu never changed their scoring policy, and they've been averaging 1/year for a while now.

1 - They have most likely changed, since scores now are much higher than before ( that nullifies the "never")

2 - Make that 3 per year. Only recent year that scored one perfect is 2012 (Kid Icarus) and the year is not over - pretty sure there will be more.

When exactly did they change? Did the standards get more lax in 08 and 09 only to get harsher in 10? After that, they decided to be lax again? This year, they must have gotten tougher to earn, right?

How often do they vary from Western media? They don't. Every game they've given a perfect score to, other publications in the West have as well. That's why I find it funny that people discredit them, but it's mostly because it's the only Japanese publication that we hear about.

Read my post again. I changed quite a bit.



outlawauron on 07 October 2012
VicViper said:
outlawauron said:
VicViper said:
outlawauron said:
Galvanizer said:
The thing is, Famitsu used to give out only one 40/40 per console. The last console to follow this strict rule was PS2 and the game that got the 40/40 was FFXII. Since the DS, they have changed their scoring policy. Now loads of games can get 40/40 on just one console. have you seen how much 40/40 games there have been in the last 4 years?

That's why I say that FFXII was the last game that really deserved the 40/40. It was the last game judged by Famitsu's harsh scoring policy.

You really have nothing to back up what you're saying. You like FF12 so it's last one that deserved it?

Famitsu never changed their scoring policy, and they've been averaging 1/year for a while now.

1 - They have most likely changed, since scores now are much higher than before ( that nullifies the "never")

2 - Make that 3 per year. Only recent year that scored one perfect is 2012 (Kid Icarus) and the year is not over - pretty sure there will be more.

When exactly did they change? Did the standards get more lax in 08 and 09 only to get harsher in 10? After that, they decided to be lax again? This year, they must have gotten tougher to earn, right?

How often do they vary from Western media? They don't. Every game they've given a perfect score to, other publications in the West have as well. That's why I find it funny that people discredit them, but it's mostly because it's the only Japanese publication that we hear about.

Read my post again. I changed quite a bit.

You say most likely with only saying that they're higher than before. You've been doing comparisons across the line in all genres, across all consoles, over the past 10 years? That would require way to much time and effort, and honestly, you still have low scores given. You even have games that are hyped with lots of advertising still fall short in their reviews.



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Then follow young Mat whenever he calls,
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ECM on 07 October 2012
Wagram said:
I bought a 3DS for Bravely Default. Release it in the states SE!

....release type-0 as well for.....anything but a phone PLEASE!


^what he said in bold. Twice.



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MDMAlliance on 07 October 2012

I trust the Bravely Default score. Seems legit to me.