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Kasz216 on 20 January 2008
Kasz216 said:
brute said:
Kasz216 said:
windbane said:
HappySqurriel said:
Kingsora_be said:
No MGS4, ZOE3, SO4, GT5, FF XIII, FF Versus XII, DMC4, KH3 (PS3).

Those games will let the domination of PS3 begin in Japan, not this game. It probably will sell well though.

Currently, Zone of the Enders 3, Star Ocean 4 and Kingdom Hearts 3 have not been announced for the PS3 ... Metal Gear Solid and Devil May Cry are not that big of series in Japan, Gran Turismo 5 Prologue has performed dratically worse than Gran Turismo 4 Prologue, and we still don't know when Final Fantasy will be released.


Considering the last 2 Star Ocean's were on PS1 and PS2...well, I guess we'll see. Again, KH 1 and 2 were made by the team making FF13: Versus, which is PS3 only...but hey, we'll see...

Every Metal Gear sells 800k in Japan. Not bad.

So far 200k have bought GT5: Pro. Only 800k of GT4: Pro were sold. Can you verify for me that 600K have not downloaded the game (or did you forget that we have that tech now for every system but the Wii)?

FF13 most likely in 2009. but hey, that date hasn't been "announced" either, so perhaps you shouldn't assume obvious facts yourself. maybe it will make 2008 in Japan.

Can't. But you can't verify it did. By best data available around 100K copies of GT5:Prologue have been downloaded.

You can inflate that to 600K if you want but that'd be silly without any indication other then you think it should sell better.

didnt sony say like 20% were online downloads


Wasn't 20%? I thought it was 1/3rd. Maybe it was 20% though. Hence why i can't find the 1/3rd press news.


 I believe you are right.  It sold 110,000 or so it's first week and Kber estimated an additional 20K in sakes.  And that's well. 

So... 40K or so makes more sense.  Which makes anywhere near 600K even more silly. 



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brute on 20 January 2008

^yeah i know 600k was a bit to much



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OnE3nD on 20 January 2008

Pretty game, WHAT SEGA IS MAKING IT...they haven't made a good game since Sonic Adventure 1 so whatever :(



 


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brute on 20 January 2008

^crush was a good game made by sega



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windbane on 20 January 2008

I'd really like to see download data for all games.

Anyway, regardless of sales I like the look of this game. 



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HappySqurriel on 20 January 2008
wenlan said:
HappySqurriel said:
leo-j said:
HappySqurriel said:
 

So, in a country where 80% of households DO NOT HAVE BROADBAND INTERNET, and most households pay for their dial-up on a minute basis, more people are going to download a multi-gigabyte game over weeks than are just going to walk out to the store and buy it?


You know how fast the PS STORE is in japan?


On dial up? I don't know ... 56k?

Basically 60 hours for every Gigabyte of data, at even $1 per hour you would end up spending hundreds of dollars to download that game.

In terms of the popularity broadband internet service, several countries in Asia are way ahead of North America.  South Korea and Japan are among the list.  Where did you get that idea of 80% of households (I assume you meant Japan) do not have broadband internet?

 

@Soriku

This is an example of how fast the PS store in Japan. 586 MB in under two minuttes. I didn't mean to do advertisement for CAG, just like to show you the video proof.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JcrvfMNe54


Broadband subscribers per 100 inhabitants, by technology, June 2007 in the OECD.[1]

Rank  Country  DSL  Cable  Other  Total  Total Subscribers  
1Denmark21.3%9.7%3.3%34.3%1,866,306
2Netherlands20.4%12.7%0.4%33.5%5,470,000
3Switzerland20.5%9.3%0.9%30.7%2,322,577
4South Korea10.1%10.6%9.2%29.9%14,441,687
5Norway22.7%4.5%2.5%29.8%1,388,047
6Iceland29.0%0.0%0.8%29.8%90,622
7Finland24.4%3.7%0.8%28.8%1,518,900
8Sweden17.9%5.6%5.0%28.6%2,596,000
9Canada11.9%12.9%0.1%25.0%8,142,320
10Belgium14.5%9.2%0.1%23.8%2,512,884
11United Kingdom18.4%5.3%0.0%23.7%14,361,816
12Australia18.3%3.4%0.9%22.7%4,700,200
13France21.4%1.1%0.0%22.5%14,250,000
14Luxembourg19.8%2.4%0.0%22.2%105,134
15United States9.3%11.5%1.3%22.1%66,213,257
16Japan10.8%2.9%7.6%21.3%27,152,349
17Germany20.2%1.0%0.1%21.2%17,472,000
18Austria11.4%6.6%0.6%18.6%1,543,518
19Ireland[2]13.2%2.4%2.8%18.4%793,600
20Spain13.3%3.6%0.1%17.0%7,483,790
21New Zealand14.6%1.1%0.8%16.5%683,500
22Italy15.4%0.0%0.4%15.8%9,307,000
23Portugal9.2%5.4%0.1%14.7%1,555,641
24Czech Republic5.5%2.5%4.2%12.2%1,252,300
25Hungary6.8%4.7%0.1%11.6%1,170,290
26Poland5.5%2.4%0.1%8.0%3,040,000
27Greece7.1%0.0%0.0%7.1%787,000
28Slovakia3.9%0.8%2.1%6.8%368,454
29Argentina[3]3.7%1.5%0.1%5.3%2,058,109
30Turkey5.1%0.0%0.0%5.2%3,767,912
31Mexico3.5%1.0%0.1%4.6%4,804,282

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadband_Internet_access_worldwide



HappySqurriel on 20 January 2008
Kasz216 said:
windbane said:
HappySqurriel said:
Kingsora_be said:
No MGS4, ZOE3, SO4, GT5, FF XIII, FF Versus XII, DMC4, KH3 (PS3).

Those games will let the domination of PS3 begin in Japan, not this game. It probably will sell well though.

Currently, Zone of the Enders 3, Star Ocean 4 and Kingdom Hearts 3 have not been announced for the PS3 ... Metal Gear Solid and Devil May Cry are not that big of series in Japan, Gran Turismo 5 Prologue has performed dratically worse than Gran Turismo 4 Prologue, and we still don't know when Final Fantasy will be released.


Considering the last 2 Star Ocean's were on PS1 and PS2...well, I guess we'll see. Again, KH 1 and 2 were made by the team making FF13: Versus, which is PS3 only...but hey, we'll see...

Every Metal Gear sells 800k in Japan. Not bad.

So far 200k have bought GT5: Pro. Only 800k of GT4: Pro were sold. Can you verify for me that 600K have not downloaded the game (or did you forget that we have that tech now for every system but the Wii)?

FF13 most likely in 2009. but hey, that date hasn't been "announced" either, so perhaps you shouldn't assume obvious facts yourself. maybe it will make 2008 in Japan.

 Can't.  But you can't verify it did.  By best data available around 100K copies of GT5:Prologue have been downloaded. 

You can inflate that to 600K if you want but that'd be silly without any indication other then you think it should sell better.

Another question is whether American and European PS3 owners could download Gran Turismo 5: Prologue ...

If there were 600,000 downloads and 80% (to pick a number) were from the United States or Europe it wouldn't be a good statement for how popular the game was in Japan.

 

And for those who seem to call me a Fanboy, please explain why Gran Turismo 5: Prologue is NOT a good indicator on how Gran Turismo 5 will sell? Any excuse or condition as to why Gran Turismo 5: Prologue sold poorly (in comparison to previous versions) will also directly impact sales of Gran Turismo 5.

If you look at the data, historically big selling series like Everybody's golf, Dynasty Warriors and Pro Evolution Soccer (which all sold in a similar range to Gran Turismo 4) have sold less than 1/2 as many copies on the PS3 as they sold on the PS2, please explain why these are NOT good indicators on how Gran Turismo 5 will sell? Any excuse or condition which applies to these games also impacts Gran Turismo 5.

Why is it that I have to spoon feed basic information on every game that is massively overhyped (like Lair, Heavenly Sword and Uncharted) and when they come out and sell to the level of MY EXPECTATIONS you suddenly say that you didn't expect them to sell well?



Borkachev on 21 January 2008

Wow. Love the art style. As soon as I saw the new prerendered cutscenes for the PSP Final Fantasy Tactics remake, I said "Why don't they put this on the PS3 in real time?"

It's not Tactics, but I guess it's a start.