Who has been bigger this generation?



Facts:

Best selling GTA game: GTA4 - Nearing 20m across two platforms
Best selling Madden game: Madden 10 - Less than 7m across four platforms. And later installments are below that.

I'm confused...which is bigger?

as I said in the other thread, GTA has more unique users and Madden maybe (I don't bother to check) more sales across all versions and installments this gen

as a console seller I think that makes GTA bigger and as a business franchise Madden might be bigger

Grand Theft Auto IV - 19.79M

Madden-30.93M

It depend on how you look at it.  GTA only had one release compared to 6-7 releases but Madden makes a ton of money.  I would still say GTA though because it got a lot of profits, critically acclaimed, and it only had one release. I dont think one or the other wins though because everybody knows what madden and GTA is.  Depends on how you look at it really.

You couldnt just PM me this lol...and I told you that GTA will always win in a forum popularity contest because forum goers dont like Madden and Madden players dont go on forums. So I hope you dont use the poll as a basis.

Grand Theft Auto IV - 19.79M

Madden-30.93M

Your facts curiously dont say how many copies of Madden have sold thoughout the gen (see above).

Franchise sales comparison for the gen. Not game to game comparison. Whats not to get? I hope the veil has been lifted from your eyes. Tis the importance of frequency :)

Merely counting the amount sold in a generation doesn't always give good results. For instance, if you're looking at how many unique players GTA has compared to Madden, GTA might just win. There have been 7 versions of Madden - there are bound to be repeat buyers.

I don't get how you managed to get GTA to just 19.79 million, either. If you're counting all Madden versions, you should count all the GTA games. Just add in the PsP and DS ones, and the total boosts up to 34.15 million for GTA.

Obviously GTA, it has more unique players and Madden is nothing outside of the US

EDIT: Nevermind, just realised this is a Jay520 thread

It was only home consoles.  Madden is also on portable consoles so that would go up as well.  Anyways as I said it depends on how you look at it.  Yearly Madden is more successful because how much money it's raking in.  

Critically=GTA
One game=GTA
Generation=Madden
Profit=Madden

As I said it depends on how you look at it.  Let me ask though, if you were a business and you could only sign one or the other would you take Madden or GTA?  GTA will give you an immediate surplus of money quickly but then a drought would come for the next 5 years.  Madden on the other hand is solid and brings in a solid amount of money every year.  Development is also cheaper for madden because it's usually features and player skills that they focus on rather than pixels.  It's hard to say because they're both rather even in many ways but this was argued in another thread and it's about frequency rather than which is bigger. 

Well, I can't stand football video games and I wasn't too impressed with GTA4 and the two side stories we got. GTA made a big splash once and Madden makes a decent splash every year. People at my job were buying it on their way to work on launch day just to have it.

If I were a console maker (ie: Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo) and I had to have one title on my machine, I'd go with Madden.

When you're talking about the whole generation, you have to add in all the versions of the games.

Firstly, the sales bit. If you add together all disc-sales - which is what we have access to - this is what you get.

X360:

Madden: 16.13 million
Grand Theft Auto: 11.76 million

Ps3:

Madden: 10.78 million
Grand Theft Auto: 10.72 million

Wii:

Madden: 4.02 million
Grand Theft Auto: 0

DS:

Madden: 1.14 million 
Grand Theft Auto: 1.25 million

PsP:

Madden: 4.15 million
Grand Theft Auto: 13.11 million

Total:

Madden:  36.22 million
Grand Theft Auto: 36.84 million

Or, in other words, more or less exactly the same as each other. Which has seen the highest profit at the current moment is relatively hard to figure out, and largely depends on the development costs. No single Madden game comes close to GTA IV in development costs, but there are so many of them, that the sum might be more or less the same. Additionally, there might be some substantial license fees to be ablle to call the game Madden (I know there used to be for Football player names, which was why only Fifa had those back pre-2000). In short, we really can't tell which is more profitable.

Furthermore, GTA is poised to sell a lot more in the end of the generation than Madden is, considering that GTA V is releasing relatively soon. Madden 12 sold 5 million, and it's been steadily selling less and less each year this generation, meaning that it has less than 10 million left in the bag for the generation. GTA V, on the other hand, should sell somewhere around 20 million.

For the seventh generation, Grand Theft Auto is bigger in terms of unit sales, far bigger in terms of uniue purchasers, more critically acclaimed, and generally makes a far bigger impact than Madden. Which is more profitable isn't  certain.  Overall, though, the biggest of the generation is definitely Grand Theft Auto, unless something very odd happens to GTA V.

I dont see the point of this thread. Why are you comparing two games that have nothing in common. One's sports and the other actionadventure. One is a yearly release and the other comes out 2 or 3 times a gen. It would be a lot better if you compared sports games that have yearly releases i.e. football (soccer) or basketball etc.