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Sony won't release their system for several more years. Everything Sony is doing right now is screaming that its a long ways off. Although if Wii U does well and kills PS3 sales, it might just force Sony's hand. And no, that isn't idle speculation, its a really well thought out guess. EVERYTHING is saying Sony won't release for a LONG time. So for the moment, Sony is going to be copying whatever Nintendo and Microsoft does to try and deflate their sales.

The threat is from Microsoft. At the earliest I see it being announced at E3 this coming year. Simply because its traditional to make console announcements at E3. (At least that's what I am guessing. Never seen one outside of it but I haven't looked at every console release) In fact, I think it's downright likely to be announced at E3, especially if Nintendo does well with the Wii U.

Halo is a system seller but I don't think they want to identify their console with Halo their signature FPS. It will probably be bundled with a sports title. Probably a hardcore version of Wii Sports... They will of course have a version that doesn't come with a bundled game, but they have been trying and are still trying to distance themselves from being called the FPS console with nothing but FPS on it.

Their major focus is going to be trying to improve on what Nintendo has already done with the Wii U while maintaining their FPS capabilities. No one doubts that XBox has FPS and the hardcore satisfied. They unlike Sony are capable of innovating their console. Problem is that they will either screw it up or they will hit the nail on the head. They have actually been doing a lot of things right in these past 10 years and I believe they will be the real threat here. In my opinion though I don't believe that they have enough pull in all the areas Nintendo has pull in and will at best, dig out a larger niche market that Nintendo doesn't have access to.

Mobile gaming might hurt Nintendo. Might not. I don't believe they can do anything they haven't already done to be honest. If it was going to collapse the gaming empire it would have already done it by now. Maybe if they added some legitimate controls to the system. Right now the whole system as a gaming platform is a joke in my eyes. But I understand that lots of people are still buying it.

My boss has a mobile gaming device, but its a bottom end one and ill admit their are probably better versions of the games he plays on more advanced phones. But the ones that he has made me cringe. Right next to one of the attack buttons on the touch screen was the reset console button, and every 5 minutes he or me would accidentally hit that button instead of the attack button, and yes we would have to start all over again. Like I said, that's probably just because the phone we were using for it sucked, but it certainly deterred me from even looking at mobile gaming seriously... I would have to hear some raving reviews before I would ever consider it at the moment.



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FrancisNobleman said:
Chris Hu said:
FrancisNobleman said:

Many people bought an X360 to watch it turn on the 3 red lights and left it in the garbage can.

What you do with your console doesn't matter, its and hardware unit sold. Oh, and Wii also sold more software that PS3 or 360.

 

You can try to spin that the way you want baby, Wii is this gen's king, although a very peculiar gen.

Meaningless ? In your wet dreams.

Nobody left the 360 in the garbage can when it RROD since all the faulty units came with a three year warranty.  Also I guess you haven't looked at software sales since the 360 is the clear winner when it comes to software sales this generation with the highest game to console software ration this generation and third highest all time behind the orginal Xbox and PS2.

I know a bunch of people who did and moved along to buy a PS3 or PC because their consoles kept frying at the 2nd and 3rd console repaired by Microsoft. But those are kind of isolated cases of some people, like the ones who left their Wii's in the closet.

Also,

Wii LTD software: 804.34 Million

X360 LTD Software: 660.53 Million

PS3 LTD software: 573.70 Million

The clear winner is clear. And in overall software it ranks as the fifth console, behind the Wii of course. 

And the original xbox is the 12th lol.

12th in overall software sales but #1 when it comes to games to console ratio with 11.01 games sold per console ahead of the PS2 at 10.66 per cosole.



DanneSandin said:
small44 said:
DanneSandin said:
small44 said:

PS4 will be at least 2 time more power then Wii U and the price will be less then PS3 and Sony can release Gran Turismo 6  and Uncharted 4 day one.

And 2 times more powerful won't be a problem for WiiU...

WiiU is launching with Mario. Mario will rape the shit out of GT6 before doing the same to UC4... sry ;)

Gamecube had a mario but it fail 

yes, indeed it did. But that's because GC lacked 3rd party support. If WiiU gets good ports (not those bastard gimped versions Wii got) Nintendo will have all the games PS720 will get and Mario. I mean... That's good. What Playstation and Xbox thrive on is 3rd party support. Sure, Halo sell 10m units and GT about the same... But 2D Mario sell moar than 25m. 3D Mario sell 10m. Zelda sell 5-7m. Imagine if Nintendo had every 3rd party games as well as their own IP's...

But who will buy a Wii U to play  game already in ps3 and Xbox360  like Fifa and COD ?



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

small44 said:

But who will buy a Wii U to play  game already in ps3 and Xbox360  like Fifa and COD ?


You're assuming that people buy a system to specifically play every game they buy for that system, which really isn't the case ...

Consider a family of 4 this Christmas where the parents decide to buy a Wii U as a gift from "Santa" to everyone, they pick up Just Dance 4 for little Sally, Lego City for little Billy, Mom gets New Super Mario U and Dad gets Call of Duty Black Ops.

 

Households are fully of diverse demographics of people, and a console which can provide a steady stream of good games for everyone in the household will be quite popular; even if some of the people in the household are only playing games that are available on other systems.



DanneSandin said:

Why wouldn't you upgrade is the specs were similar to WiiU? I mean, ZombiU looks good (not great, but really good) and I'd imagine that in 2-3 years time games will look twice as good. What will it take for you to get a PS4?

hehe yeah, you gotta love platformers! easy to make, fun to play! But isn't there a new LBP coming out soon?

The Wii U specs are good, but they're only good compared to a PS3 and Xbox 360. Ideally I would want the PS4 at launch to be able to run Battlefield 3 and Crysis 2 comparable to the PC versions maxed out at 1080p and 60fps. I'm not exactly sure how good the Wii U specs are but I don't think it would be able to manage that. I'll put my hands up and admit that I'm a graphics whore, I'm a huge tech fan and it's one of the most exciting part about buying a new console for me.

Yeah, I love platformers too. There is a new LittleBigPlanet coming out for Vita, not sure about console though.



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FrancisNobleman said:
FromDK said:

Sure they can effect wii u sales a litle.. but i think a wii u price cut to 250 for the basic model and 300 for deluxe (or new bundles) when nextbox and ps4 comes.. will hurt them a lot more..

And wii-r is comming.. why not reveal it, 1 month before next box

Wii R??

VR.. Try to hold the upad in front of the head (and if the game supports it.. like the bird demo) look around. Meaning a head version.. is virtual reality.. VR .. Wii-R.. :)

For me it was clear first time i saw wii u (preparet to stream the picture to a external device) that this is the time we go in..

So in short.. Wii-r (it must be the name) is a wii u accessori build on the tec from upad.. but without touch and buttons shaped as a head set offering virtual reality in games that supports it (i think u can play all games in it.. but only games made for headtracking/gyro control will give u VR)

Or u can think of it like a game series with speciel controller (in this case a headset)  just like GH, buzz and singstar..

In 1-2 years when you look down.. you don't see a wii-mote.. you see a  lightsaber (if it's a starwars game)

 

Offcourse this is not official.. but it will still hapen




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JEMC said:
Khuutra said:
JEMC said:

I agree that until Spring, there's nothing Microsoft or Sony can do to hurt WiiU's sales. What's more, the biggest problem so far seems to be the lack of enough consoles to meet the demand (something that could, ironically, benefit MS and Sony).

And I also agree that E3 will be very important for all of them. MS and Sony will probably give some details of their new consoles, they may even show the final hardware and give price and launch dates, and that will at least slow WiiU sales.

But Nintendo can mitigate the damage if they are capable of showing that third parties really care about WiiU and will support them once the launch period is over with new games (not necessarily exclusives) and also bringing to the table more info about their 1st party games. That's where studios like Retro or Monolith enter in action.

E3 won't matter for Nintendo just like it hasn't really mattered for a few years now.

We may get a good showing - maybe - but Nintendo Direct is where the megatons land, now.

E3 still matters to third parties, and that's the most important doubt Nintento has to make us forget.

This year we had Ubisoft with "Watch Dogs" unveiling. Nintendo needs to have that game on WiiU. And the same goes for "Star Wars 1313".

In E3 2013 Nintendo needs to show that Third Parties care about WiiU. Otherwise many "gamers" will wait for the PS4/Nextbox, and the sales wof WiiU will be affected by it.


I totally agree. E3 2013 should be a doozy.  I think what will be very important is what Sony and Ms say about release dates of their next consoles. I really don't think they can miss releasing in 2013, cause that would be playing right into Nintendo's hand.



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They'd have to join forces.



DarkD said:
Sony won't release their system for several more years. Everything Sony is doing right now is screaming that its a long ways off. Although if Wii U does well and kills PS3 sales, it might just force Sony's hand. And no, that isn't idle speculation, its a really well thought out guess. EVERYTHING is saying Sony won't release for a LONG time. So for the moment, Sony is going to be copying whatever Nintendo and Microsoft does to try and deflate their sales.

The threat is from Microsoft. At the earliest I see it being announced at E3 this coming year. Simply because its traditional to make console announcements at E3. (At least that's what I am guessing. Never seen one outside of it but I haven't looked at every console release) In fact, I think it's downright likely to be announced at E3, especially if Nintendo does well with the Wii U.

Halo is a system seller but I don't think they want to identify their console with Halo their signature FPS. It will probably be bundled with a sports title. Probably a hardcore version of Wii Sports... They will of course have a version that doesn't come with a bundled game, but they have been trying and are still trying to distance themselves from being called the FPS console with nothing but FPS on it.

Their major focus is going to be trying to improve on what Nintendo has already done with the Wii U while maintaining their FPS capabilities. No one doubts that XBox has FPS and the hardcore satisfied. They unlike Sony are capable of innovating their console. Problem is that they will either screw it up or they will hit the nail on the head. They have actually been doing a lot of things right in these past 10 years and I believe they will be the real threat here. In my opinion though I don't believe that they have enough pull in all the areas Nintendo has pull in and will at best, dig out a larger niche market that Nintendo doesn't have access to.

Mobile gaming might hurt Nintendo. Might not. I don't believe they can do anything they haven't already done to be honest. If it was going to collapse the gaming empire it would have already done it by now. Maybe if they added some legitimate controls to the system. Right now the whole system as a gaming platform is a joke in my eyes. But I understand that lots of people are still buying it.

My boss has a mobile gaming device, but its a bottom end one and ill admit their are probably better versions of the games he plays on more advanced phones. But the ones that he has made me cringe. Right next to one of the attack buttons on the touch screen was the reset console button, and every 5 minutes he or me would accidentally hit that button instead of the attack button, and yes we would have to start all over again. Like I said, that's probably just because the phone we were using for it sucked, but it certainly deterred me from even looking at mobile gaming seriously... I would have to hear some raving reviews before I would ever consider it at the moment.

Why don't you think PS4 will release next year? Sony has gone on record and said they don't wanna be last one out again... And giving WiiU a head start of 2 years means handing Nintendo this gen...



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