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happydolphin on 15 September 2012
HappySqurriel said:
The reaction against this move demonstrates something ... Some gamers are so irrationally angry at Nintendo that anything Nintendo does will make them angrier at Nintendo.

If Nintendo focuses on broader market gamers who are more interested in accessable fun than "hardcore" experiences, Nintendo is an mean company that has abandoned these gamers for "casual" gamers. If Nintendo attracts more "hardcore" experiences to their console, Nintendo is a mean company that is "stealing" a game from their preferred platform.


Honestly, these people can suck my balls.



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menx64 on 15 September 2012

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oni-link on 15 September 2012

they should just buy a Wii U, if they are butthurt that much.



noname2200 on 15 September 2012
NightDragon83 said:
I honestly have zero interest in this game but the fact that it's now a Wii U exclusive was so worth it just to see the HD fanboys' heads explode and throw epic rage fits.

Seconded!

Or at this point, ten-thousand-ed.

 

I will say though that the article reads more like something off Kotaku or some other crappy blog. I wish there was more professionalism in journalism today.

Also, get off my lawn.

Mr Puggsly said:

Well I think the real issue is the lack of loyalty from Platinum Games to their fans. It wasn't Nintendo or Wii fans that made Bayonetta a success, yet they get the sequel?

They made it such a roaring success that its publisher was uninterested in funding the sequel! Oh wait, you already know the real story behind all this. My mistake.

There's butthurt, and then there's delusional. But keep fighting that good fight, my friend!



lilbroex on 15 September 2012

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Mr Puggsly on 15 September 2012
Mr Khan said:
Mr Puggsly said:
RobDX said:

the first bayonnetta wasn't really a success, that's why there wasn't gonna be a sequel

and that's like the classic angry-fanboy phrase: "yeah it's a exclusive now but it will surely suck so they will make a cooler, improved, fantastic, upper dupper better version in my cooler better console" 

Seriously? The game sold nearly 2 million copies and trounced the sales of every other title by Platinum Games. There are a lot of games that sell less and get sequels.

You're putting words in my mouth. Have we not seen late ports with content added in the past? Ninja Gaiden 3, Mass Effect 3, Batman Arkham City... just some examples.

None of those being published by a first party.

The best example in your favor is Ninja Gaiden Sigma/ Sigma 2, but somehow i don't think Nintendo is going to allow that to happen in this case. But then, of course, against your case, stands Mass Effect 1.

I didn't say those were first party games. Those are examples of games that are going to be released on Wii U with added content. Read what I was responding to.

MS also published the Oddworld games on original Xbox which were later ported PS3.

Maybe Platinum Games will bring it to the next MS and Sony consoles. But staying on Wii U just seems unlikely to me.



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RobDX on 15 September 2012
Mr Puggsly said:
RobDX said:
Mr Puggsly said:
happydolphin said:

Aww, aw de ps twee sicsty fanboys butthuwt? Hewe, have a bandaid for your booboo.

Seriously, cry me a river. I am so happy to hear this news, the true nature of fanboys across the internet is finally emerging, and the day they are served crow is fast approaching. I - Can't - Wait.

Well I think the real issue is the lack of loyalty from Platinum Games to their fans. It wasn't Nintendo or Wii fans that made Bayonetta a success, yet they get the sequel?

I'm gonna presume this is a timed exclusive and the HD twins are going to get an improved version. If this stays a Wii U exclusive then Platinum Games is going to lose a lot of fans.

the first bayonnetta wasn't really a success, that's why there wasn't gonna be a sequel

and that's like the classic angry-fanboy phrase: "yeah it's a exclusive now but it will surely suck so they will make a cooler, improved, fantastic, upper dupper better version in my cooler better console" 

Seriously? The game sold nearly 2 million copies and trounced the sales of every other title by Platinum Games. There are a lot of games that sell less and get sequels.

You're putting words in my mouth. Have we not seen late ports with content added in the past? Ninja Gaiden 3, Mass Effect 3, Batman Arkham City... just some examples.

well according to vgchartz it has 1.88m an that is pretty low considering it's a multiplatform game, it´s true that for some games it's a great success to sell even 1M but that doesn´t count if the game had a budget of 5M and i guess that was the case and that is why SEGA wasn't interested in making a sequel, those facts made me say that the game wasn't really a success



binary solo on 15 September 2012
lilbroex said:

News that ‘Bayonetta 2′ is coming only to Nintendo’s next-gen Wii U has some fans up in arms. 

 

After all, Platinum Games only had two choices in this scenario: They could either not make a sequel, or they could bring the sequel to the Wii U as an exclusive. Either way, non-Wii U owners are out of luck. Given their options, I think Platinum Games did the right thing.

Well, no they didn't only have 2 choices. The third option was to convince Sega that Bayonetta 2 would be a viable 3-console + PC multiplat. Evidently Sega are either really smart or really stupid for rejectiong PG on this. We'll see I guess.

I also dispute the claim that PG did the right thng. Arguably PG should recognise that Bayonetta is a franchise with limited appeal in a genre that really struggles to get really high sales. Basically, God of War and Devil May Cry are the only comparable franchises that have met with big success. And this gen DMC has fallen well behind. So that leaves God of War as the lone big selling H'n'S game. So PG, from a business perspective, could have been better off putting its resources into something else.

If PG was smart (which they possibly aren't) they should have got themselves an out clause to allow them to publish on other consoles if certain sales levels aren't achieved: e.g. if B2 gets at least an 80 Metascore and sells less than 1.5 million in a year then we get to try to put the game on other systems.

That way if B2 sells like Madworld it would still give PG a chance to get some sales from a fairly cheap porting process. And it gives them the choice of either old gen console or new, given 1 year after launch on Wii U it will be PS4/720 launch time.



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lilbroex on 15 September 2012

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Darc Requiem on 15 September 2012
Mr Puggsly said:
Mr Khan said:
Mr Puggsly said:
RobDX said:

the first bayonnetta wasn't really a success, that's why there wasn't gonna be a sequel

and that's like the classic angry-fanboy phrase: "yeah it's a exclusive now but it will surely suck so they will make a cooler, improved, fantastic, upper dupper better version in my cooler better console" 

Seriously? The game sold nearly 2 million copies and trounced the sales of every other title by Platinum Games. There are a lot of games that sell less and get sequels.

You're putting words in my mouth. Have we not seen late ports with content added in the past? Ninja Gaiden 3, Mass Effect 3, Batman Arkham City... just some examples.

None of those being published by a first party.

The best example in your favor is Ninja Gaiden Sigma/ Sigma 2, but somehow i don't think Nintendo is going to allow that to happen in this case. But then, of course, against your case, stands Mass Effect 1.

I didn't say those were first party games. Those are examples of games that are going to be released on Wii U with added content. Read what I was responding to.

MS also published the Oddworld games on original Xbox which were later ported PS3.

Maybe Platinum Games will bring it to the next MS and Sony consoles. But staying on Wii U just seems unlikely to me.


Platinum Games isn't a publisher. They developed the original Bayonetta as a 360 exclusive. The only reason the game released on the PS3 was because Sega, the publsher, decided to do so themselves. The company isn't big enough to do what you are asking. If they were, they wouldn't have needed Sega to publish the original game. The chances of the new publisher, Nintendo, porting the game to the competition is nil.

@Binary Solo

Sega is trying to stay a float right now and you are incorrect. PG would have had to convince Sammy to publish the game. Sammy runs Sega. Or more aptly, Sammy is running Sega into the ground.