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HappySqurriel said:
Its insensitive and not politically correct but it is not inherently wrong ...

While becoming "Bill Gates Rich" involves a lot of exceptional things to line up for you, the basic process of climbing the economic ladder involves showing up, doing the work that is required of you, and trying to get along with your co-workers/other students and boss/teacher.

Anyone can end up being "poor" for a period of their life due to misfortune, but almost no one stays "poor" for a long period of time without their decisions and attitude playing a major role in it.
Certainly we all may "fail" in life but the difference between those who are successful and those who are not is often based on who tries again. There is a long list of successful people who were successful simply because they were willing to fail more than anyone else.

We would mock a 40 year old man who never had a girlfriend who made up countless excuses why he never put any effort into attracting women and yet deserved to be with a "perfect 10", and yet we completely tolerate people making similar excuses why they never put any effort into their career but deserve to be wealthy.

 

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but do you really have any evidence for this? I mean, this is the normal right-wing argument; the poor are poor because they don't work hard enough or something to this effect. The general leftist response is either that a) they do work hard and the system is rigged to make sure they get nowhere while doing so or b) they don't work hard because they have experienced no benefit from working hard and have stopped bothering.

Idealistically, I'd like to go with your rhetoric since the idea seems to be that people are the masters of their own fate and that we aren't completely bound by circumstance, but are you entirely convinced that's the reality of the situation in general?

For your second paragraph, the liberal answer would probably be that few poor people are in the situation you described and that the majority put effort into their career and still get nowhere, rather giving them something of a right to complain about being poor.



 

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she´s fat and ugly hahaha



There's nothing really wrong with what she said and I'm not rich.

I came from very poor background... i.e homeless a couple times. I worked my ass off as did my wife. We both now have Master level educations and a family income of six figures USD.

During college I did not go out and party each night/weekend, I did not join a dumb ass frat house.. don't need to pay to have friends... instead I worked 40hrs a week at retail and busted my ass in a computer lab.

Worked hard early to play more later. :)



Jesus what did this lady smooke all the day.



superchunk said:
There's nothing really wrong with what she said and I'm not rich.

I came from very poor background... i.e homeless a couple times. I worked my ass off as did my wife. We both now have Master level educations and a family income of six figures USD.

During college I did not go out and party each night/weekend, I did not join a dumb ass frat house.. don't need to pay to have friends... instead I worked 40hrs a week at retail and busted my ass in a computer lab.

Worked hard early to play more later. :)

yeah but that wouldn't work if everyone would do that. not everyone can work as whatever you do, there are only limited ressources for something you can make good money with. it's not as if everyone on this planet could open an own company to make some money or that everyone could work for a company at a postion to make enough money. there doesn't come money from nowhere for everyone and it's not as if there wouldn't be still the jobs people don't get enough money for which the same amount of people have to do like they do nowadays. we don't have robots who can do all the low paid jobs on this planet, with you who doesn't have to do the low paid jobs anymore, there is someone else who has to do it now instead of you.



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Lets see where she'd be at if she didn't inherit her family fortune... besides she seems to be spending her money on conveniences and calories.

She thinks people are jealous of money when she is jealous of people that have friends and a social life!



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spurgeonryan said:
Sal.Paradise said:
spurgeonryan said:
tonymarraffa said:
What a cunt!


What does that word mean? More british slang left for the Americans on this site to decipher?

An affectionate term used to address others intimately. 


Like "Your a Cunt Sal! I love your posting style." Is that right?

Yes, you adorable cunt <3 



Smeags said:
blkfish92 said:
Wow holy ignorant Batman! She inherited her fortune and she wants to preach about working harder? The hell!?

We take Gotham from the corrupt! The rich! The oppressors of generations who have kept you down with myths of opportunity, and we give it back to you... the people. Gotham is yours. None shall interfere. Do as you please. Start by storming Blackgate, and freeing the oppressed! Step forward those who would serve. For an army will be raised. The powerful will be ripped from their decadent nests, and cast out into the cold world that we know and endure. Courts will be convened. Spoils will be enjoyed. Blood will be shed. The police will survive, as they learn to serve true justice. This great city... it will endure. Gotham will survive!

 


Well this just awesome lol



           

pezus said:

But when it's used it is very effective

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB7BWvD5B5Y

"You fucking retract that bit about my cunt fucking kids!"

Oh man. That is one of my favourite movies. I want to visit Brugues. 

About that lady. She is just saying stuff lot of other people say. She does have a scary face saying it though. 



She has a point. If I saved all the money I would otherwise spend on cigarettes, it would take me only 147 years to accrue the start up capital I would need to start my business.