At the begining of the generation, most devs put their beans on the 360/ps3 because they though the wii was going to get destroid by those "hardcore" consoles. The wii then sold a huge ton of hardware and software, devs probably were looking at that market and salivating at all the money around the console, however changing gears at the point meant they were wrong at the begining, and no way they would admit such a thing. It'd be better sink the boat that surrender to the new capitan.

Doesn't matter if PS360 sold more 3rd party software - now you're moving goal posts.  You said 3rd party games didn't sell on Wii which is factually wrong.  Just saying.

I would say the same thing about PS3 from PS2 and PSX. Sony has been going WAY too much in the PC-gaming direction, and Nintendo consoles have more traditional type games that I enjoy.

800 million software sold on Wii. 740 million on DS, 1.54 billion total software. That's more than PS3, PSP, and Xbox 360 combined. With only first party strength, Nintendo controlled over 50% of the worldwide software market.

I did this as a troll thread 4 years ago.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=22995

Very few third party games sell on Ninty platforms. Wii was a success so 3rd party developers jumped on board but the games didnt sell. So that why from 2010, and onwards, there was a major dip in releases on wii.

It's not like 3rd party developers didnt try.

When I say comparable I'm not talking about making an expensive console simply one that is in the same ball park as that of their competitors so that it can be a viable platform for next gen games running on more sophisticated engines like Unreal Engine 4 for example.

You can look at things and say that 3rd parties have to accomodate Nintendo but I think it's more realistic to say that it's a two way street and if Nintendo wants better 3rd party support next gen then it seems reasonable that they should meet the developers half way.

Third party titles not selling on the Wii is a gaming urban myth. There are plenty of titles that have earnt publishers a profit - Mario and Sonic, Just Dance, Red Steel, Red Steel 2, Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition, Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles, Resident Evil Darkside Chronicles, Monster Hunter Tri, House of The Dead 2 and 3, House of The Dead Overkill, Tatsunoku Vs Capcom, Tiger Woods PGA Tour, FIFA (even though it's seriously gimped on the Wii), Muramasa Demon Blade, the Trauma Center games and Madworld spring to mind.

As Ubisoft and Sega are going to find out with ZombiU and Aliens Colonial Marines respectively, if a publisher puts effort into a game for a Nintendo console and - most importantly - markets it properly it'll sell. It's really not rocket science. The majority of those titles I listed above get a A for effort but a B-D for marketing and they all either met or exceeded expectations.

Have a look at the Wii titles that've sold over 500K and compare it to the amount of PS3 and 360 titles that have sold the same, even if you ignore the fact that PS3 and 360 development is more expensive there's a shitload more Wii titles that have gone gold compared to PS3 and 360 titles. The 'third party titles don't sell on Nintendo consoles' excuse may have been valid with the N64 and Gamecube at times but nowadays it's an urban myth that some people in the industry can't shake, and probably won't shake until the 'hardcore' launch and launch window titles for the U sell like hotcakes. And when (there is no 'if' about it) that happens there are going to be more than a few executives kicking themselves for not supporting the U right out of the gate when Ubisoft have money coming out of their ears.

@Snowdag: well put, well put indeed!

The problem here is. That developers/publishers are quite stupid.

They think "I will give Nintendo a chance" come out with 1 game it does not perfom that well compared to the PS or Xbox and then the developers think " Wasn't worth it I will not support this console again"


The "STUPID" part here is this:

They know they are competing with Nintendo. They know It takes time to convince an existing fanbase to play new games but they ignore it.

They then make cheap games or bad games and their blockbusters dont come to the NIntendo consoles or dont get advertised (like 360 and PS3 versions get advertised Wii version not WHY???) Or the Nintendo console gets bad ports.
Instead of investing into the console to convince its userbase to play new games they just give up every single time and then years later they try it again and give up every single time. They are just really stupid fools. Their absence on the N64 made all this happen and their continuation of doing so just makes it worse because they prove that noone needs them.

This is why I as a Nintendo console owner almost buy Nintendo games only.

Some will be bought sure like I bought Goldeneye Wii or Monster Hunter Tri etc. but just because I knew those games are good.

I also have no interest in investing time and "hunting down" good games when there is a shitload of crap games at my retailer. It's demotivating and those crap games also come from EA, Activision or Rockstar (carnival games etc.)

I was tired to look for good games of those devs/publishers. And then some games came to the Wii but they were crippled/test/guinea pig versions like Resident evil ON RAILS Dead Space ON RAILS Dragon Quest ON RAILS and now Dragon Quest ONLINE WITH FEE. All this crap does't help the situation. (crap compared to the normal games tho)

The problem is now that Im used to all this shit coming from not Nintendo devs etc. They need to convince me even more that it is worth buying their games. They are diggin their own graves..... And complain  how deep the holes are LOL