What is the point in freeing up the TV when you're in the same room as the TV? Most households by the time this becomes relevant will be able to free the TV regardless by streaming TV to their tablet or laptop. The PS VIta can do this too and that is a really popular and successful platform, it can even free up the TV and you don't even have to be in the same room.
Asymmetrical gameplay has not been proved to be enticing. You can't count these until they are hatched.
Do you realize that you answered your own question? Plenty of people are on other devices while the TV is on for others. My girlfriend is constantly doing things on her phone, tablet, or playing my 3DS while the TV is on a show. Even my mom often plays her DS while watching programs in the background. The WiiU will give people the ability to play a full-fledged console game in their hands on the fly if others enter the room for TV watching. Same goes for watching Netflix, etc. And who said you must remain in the same room?
You can count asymmetrical gameplay as yet another feature that the WiiU provides that hasn't been done before out of the box for a home game console, which is why I brought it up in this discussion. Whether it's a selling point remains to be seen, but it certainly has potential.
Wireless has a limited range for streaming. Besides if the Vita does practically the same thing and is not popular there is very little reason to think that the Wii U tablet feature will be more popular with even less capability.
I don't really see the logic of your argument ...
The PS-Vita is a $250/$300 device that can hook up to another $300 device to emulate the Wii U, and currently there are few games designed for the ground up to take advantage of this feature. The lack of success of this set up hardly says anything about how successful a (likely) $300 system with a large library of games designed around it will be.
What is the point in freeing up the TV when you're in the same room as the TV? Most households by the time this becomes relevant will be able to free the TV regardless by streaming TV to their tablet or laptop. The PS VIta can do this too and that is a really popular and successful platform, it can even free up the TV and you don't even have to be in the same room.
Asymmetrical gameplay has not been proved to be enticing. You can't count these until they are hatched.
Do you realize that you answered your own question? Plenty of people are on other devices while the TV is on for others. My girlfriend is constantly doing things on her phone, tablet, or playing my 3DS while the TV is on a show. Even my mom often plays her DS while watching programs in the background. The WiiU will give people the ability to play a full-fledged console game in their hands on the fly if others enter the room for TV watching. Same goes for watching Netflix, etc. And who said you must remain in the same room?
You can count asymmetrical gameplay as yet another feature that the WiiU provides that hasn't been done before out of the box for a home game console, which is why I brought it up in this discussion. Whether it's a selling point remains to be seen, but it certainly has potential.
Wireless has a limited range for streaming. Besides if the Vita does practically the same thing and is not popular there is very little reason to think that the Wii U tablet feature will be more popular with even less capability.
Why? As the post above yours points out, most importantly, people will be buying WiiU for its games; something that Vita is not proving itself with at the moment. Vita is a completely separate purchase independent from the PS3. The WiiU is built around this philosophy and works out of the box. So developers can design around this principle as everyone will have access to its capabilities. So it'll be far more popular in this regard; it's not even close.
And the streaming is not just limited to playing a game on the gamepad instead of the TV; both screens can work in tandem with WiiU with one game. The Vita requires software on both devices - see Playstation All Stars - which means that the image being displayed on Vita while doing this is limited to its hardware. As we saw with the Zelda HD demo (running in real time) last year, WiiU can display the full game image on the TV and the gamepad simultaneously. Can PS3 + Vita (or Xbox360 + Smartglass) do that?
Yes in a sense.
OMG, two things (1) that is a really cool demo, but one that ultimately proves why Nintendo's idea of the WiiU and Gamepad would be succesful, and (2) Sony is so dam shamless it is rediculous. I mean how many of Nintendo's ideas are they going to steel - sixaxis, Move, kart racing, Playstation AS Battleroyal, I mean come on. No wonder Nintendo is so dame secreative all the time - because they know Sony (and Microsoft to an extent) are just out their to steal their ideas!
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OMG, two things (1) that is a really cool demo, but one that ultimately proves why Nintendo's idea of the WiiU and Gamepad would be succesful, and (2) Sony is so dam shamless it is rediculous. I mean how many of Nintendo's ideas are they going to steel - sixaxis, Move, kart racing, Playstation AS Battleroyal, I mean come on. No wonder Nintendo is so dame secreative all the time - because they know Sony (and Microsoft to an extent) are just out their to steal their ideas!
OH YOU'VE DONE IT NOW.
Posting stuff like that is the equivalent of doing this:
@DaRev shameless?! you do know that something similar has existed for years, im pretty sure Vita was in development before Wii U with the functions that have just been demonstrated, how could they copy something that didnt even exist yet? If your still not convinced, then you have remote play function thats been on PSP for years, it essentially lets you stream content from the PS3 to the PSP and you can play some games(like PS1 classics) Ninty is simply taking that concept and expanding it and making a whole system around it. Sony didnt copy Ninty in this regard
That is some pretty cool interaction, but it further proves the point I'm making...
If you notice while LBP2 is being played on the "TV", the Vita is merely displaying simple shapes on it's screen; not the full game. Once Sackboy goes into the pipe and appears on the Vita, the action on the TV essentially stops while the Vita is displaying the full game. Also, I can't quite tell if the visual fidelity of the game on Vita at that point is the PS3 graphics or not (ala cross play games) but it may be.
With the Zelda HD demo on WiiU, you can see (starting at the 2:05 mark) that the full WiiU game image is being displayed on both the TV and the controller screen simultaneously. While this was merely a demo (and the image on the TV screen appears to be a bit smaller than full-screen during this), the graphics are running in real time, so I'm hopeful that this will be possible for future games on the console.
Yeah, so far we don't know how simultaneous the displays can run with the Vita/PS3 combo. The real combo is going to be with the PS4 since the two consoles will be made with eachother in mind while the PS3 is what is limiting it right now. Until then there could be a market for multiplatform games with the Wii U, but I kind of think it will be put off until PS4 and gamers will have to deal with LBP2 and Guacamelee as the only games that utilize it, but a few more could pop up.
Another thing I've noticed is that when people see that something may be "mistaken" in favor of the Wii U they clear it up quickly. They make sure that people don't even think for a second that the Wii U is an ounce stronger than the lowest predicted news.
