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Kasz216 said:
I'd put it this way. I would suggest... that if somebody saw a screenshot of both games side by side and weren't knowledgeable on video game mascots they would think it was the same game.

Even the preview videos were done stylistically like the Smash brothers ones, as my girlfriend knew what it was copying before it ever got to gameplay, and likely would of just thought it was smash brothers if I didn't say "Hey look at this new sony game."


There is no doubt in my mind they started out with Smash Brothers as a concept, right down to the art and presentation style, and then said "How can we make this different."

and went from there.


That said... who cares? I mean seriously. Either you HATE smash brothers type games... and then who cares.

Or you LOVE smash brothers type games and there are more smash brothers type games. Awesome.


You know what game I wish would get ripped off more? Pokemon. Someone should make a Indy Pokemon type game for PC. That would rule.

Blatant ripoffs is more or less how we get new Genres.

I mean where would we be right now if nobody ripped off John Carmack?

Or so friggin true, we need more pokemon type games.



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I wonder how much outrage there'll be if MS decide to go down that path and release a similar game with the generally associated 360 characters. Or if PSA was actually released before NSMB. The outrage would be interesting if the tables have been turned, and we likely wouldn't hear the end of it for some time.



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Chandler said:
Destructoid gets ignored because it's a piece of shit garbage site that always goes where the most controversy is because being the Armond White of video games is a massive cash generator. Also, those who are in the Beta have a certain interest in this game succeeding because they are most likely Sony fans if they have gone through the trouble of signing up for a beta. The average run of the mill joe schmoe does not participate in betas. It's the same with Kid Icarus and Gravity Rush, where both camps would SWEAR that those games are legitimate games of the forever and ever.


See what I mean? It's always some sort of conspiracy and you people always have some bogus excuse for why something that goes against your opinion does not count.

Destructoid also isn't only going after controversy, it is Jim Sterling not being a run of the mill joe schmoe reviewer who gives the same regurgitated opinion as everyone else in the media.

 

 

All this whining is why gamers are never taken seriously. One day Nintendo fans cry about IGN, then Gamespot, next stop we get Destructoid. Every site is nothing more than an entire group of journalists who have it out for Nintendo.

Of course this only lasts until the day Destructoid gives a Nintendo game a 9/10 or a 10/10, then all of a sudden all is forgiven, like when Skyward Sword was given a 9.5/10. Then when NSMB2 gets a 7/10 it's right back to "Destructoid hates Nintendo!"

 

 

Always the same thing. Been that way for years. Every fanbase does it, which is why it is embarassing.

 

 

 

Destructoid's opinion means much more than Hideki Kamiya who never even touched the damn game. Why don't you go shit all over Kamiya? Isn't he obviously just going for the controversial route to bring more attention to his WiiU title?


No. When the game was first shown everybody thought Smash Bros. You, me, the press, Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, everybody. Nobody up to this point can give an explanation why Sony decided to do this game 2D with a Roster full of mascots that have always been 3D because you know what the only conceivable explanation is. They WANT this game to be as similar as possible to Smash. And I'm not after Kamiyas head because it's his opinion and I agree with it. Destructoids opinion is the one that goes against what everyone is thinking when they see the game so theirs is currently the controversial one. That's how controversial is defined.


You just agreed to what I explained. Kamiya = okay because you agree. Destruction = piece of shit because you don't agree.

Debating with that is pointless.

 

Destructoid also acknowledges that they are similar, but they right that it isn't a carbon copy and it isn't just them who thinks they play and feel different.

People like you, kamiya, etc... who never played it and quite frankly know nothing anout the game are the ones who refuse to acknowledge that and continue on your quest to get everyone to accept that only Nintendo can have double jumping in their games.

By the way, nobody cares what a game looks like. They care how it plays. You are judging the book solely by its cover.



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Kasz216 said:
I'd put it this way. I would suggest... that if somebody saw a screenshot of both games side by side and weren't knowledgeable on video game mascots they would think it was the same game.

Even the preview videos were done stylistically like the Smash brothers ones, as my girlfriend knew what it was copying before it ever got to gameplay, and likely would of just thought it was smash brothers if I didn't say "Hey look at this new sony game."


There is no doubt in my mind they started out with Smash Brothers as a concept, right down to the art and presentation style, and then said "How can we make this different."

and went from there.


That said... who cares? I mean seriously. Either you HATE smash brothers type games... and then who cares.

Or you LOVE smash brothers type games and there are more smash brothers type games. Awesome.


You know what game I wish would get ripped off more? Pokemon. Someone should make a Indy Pokemon type game for PC. That would rule.

Blatant ripoffs is more or less how we get new Genres.

I mean where would we be right now if nobody ripped off John Carmack?

Or so friggin true, we need more pokemon type games.

why aren't they pushing digimon more? I think the franchise has potential but absolutely no push behind it. and lol can you imagine if sony makes a game like pokemon? Fans who should be happy to see a similar game would go apeshit for years

anywho OT: I'm in the beta and it has a NDA...so I honestly am not sure what I can talk about or not here. The game does not play or feel like smash. Unless you consider all FPS games play the same cuz they shoot or something. Visual wise it's very similar, and the sub genre is definitely the same as smash. But that ends there. If I had to say I think this game uses concepts from games like MK, SF and Dissidia more than smash on a gameplay basis. The three tiers of super brings a whole new dimension of strategy into play as well.

And I have seen some comments about the game 'looking' slower than smash. It isn't. It's slow if you do not know the moves you have yet. This game does not have a charge/dash move. Instead the dashing is done BY certain moves themselves. The game is fast, chaotic and fun. And I need to play the game more but I feel this game has a much bigger move set than smash characters as well. 

oh and one of THE best things about this game? Even as a beta, the online component >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Smash. Other than the occassional hiccup, the online gameplay is smooth as hell. No lag whatsoever.

lol I think I kinda broke the nda here. 



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It's not if you played it you'd know that the only similar thing it has to smash is the layout (how it looks when they're fighting) Truly it's not and honestly I wish it was a copy because from the beta I was very disappointed. Not that I was expecting a copy, but it just didn't play as well as I thought it would.



           

The person who says WE NEED MORE POKEMON RIP OFF's shows why this gneration has gone no where but to the shooters it's because people are so use to getting crap that they would rather have the same thing than someone be creative.

Shooters are shooters you can't copy an idea of a shooter because it's based on real life. Nobody in the gaming world invented shooting a target with a gun. 

Street Fighter and MC one was based on anime style the other was based on realistic style. Plus watch the games look at what you can do in each and even a idiot could tell you there games.

PAS isn't easy to tell the difference  at all. Plus why is it 2d when all there games where 3d? Pardox? If you can't see this as marketing plan to ride on someone elses sucess then your blind.

Ssm in tags. Playstation all stars being on ad when you type in super smash bros on google.

Wake up.

They could have created a epic 3d game (what there actual good at and makes sense) BUT NO WE GET A MOVE.... a mod racers again. They would why these things flop all the time is because people see through the bs and buy the actual game.

Thing of all the creative ideas they could have done and tell me why they choose one that was directly like smash bros? Be objective not some blind guy saying sony is doing it for the fans. If they actual  cared about there fans they would have gave us a new experience and say hey nintendo is doing this we will go the oppsite direction. Like the ps1 and ps2 days. Now there sony is joke by developers who see past the bs. Only blind lovers of sony who love uninspired work would think otherwise.



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ninetailschris said:

The person who says WE NEED MORE POKEMON RIP OFF's shows why this gneration has gone no where but to the shooters it's because people are so use to getting crap that they would rather have the same thing than someone be creative.

Shooters are shooters you can't copy an idea of a shooter because it's based on real life. Nobody in the gaming world invented shooting a target with a gun. 

Street Fighter and MC one was based on anime style the other was based on realistic style. Plus watch the games look at what you can do in each and even a idiot could tell you there games.

PAS isn't easy to tell the difference  at all. Plus why is it 2d when all there games where 3d? Pardox? If you can't see this as marketing plan to ride on someone elses sucess then your blind.

Ssm in tags. Playstation all stars being on ad when you type in super smash bros on google.

Wake up.

They could have created a epic 3d game (what there actual good at and makes sense) BUT NO WE GET A MOVE.... a mod racers again. They would why these things flop all the time is because people see through the bs and buy the actual game.

Thing of all the creative ideas they could have done and tell me why they choose one that was directly like smash bros? Be objective not some blind guy saying sony is doing it for the fans. If they actual  cared about there fans they would have gave us a new experience and say hey nintendo is doing this we will go the oppsite direction. Like the ps1 and ps2 days. Now there sony is joke by developers who see past the bs. Only blind lovers of sony who love uninspired work would think otherwise.

I put it to you that eventhough you get sequels and what not from Sony, they still come up with the original stuff.

Unfinished Swan
Journey
flOwer
Heavy Rain

to name a few

 

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I'm joining in the beta tomorrow and either way I'm buying both versions of the game on day one. Currently have the PS3 version pre-ordered.

I've been wanting this style of game in the PlayStation Nation for a long time and it is finally here. It is a fan service game and Sony is in need of firing up their fanbase.



Kasz216 said:

You know what game I wish would get ripped off more? Pokemon. Someone should make a Indy Pokemon type game for PC. That would rule.


Funny that you say that, but there's a free iOS game that's a Pokemon ripoff, but there isn't 50 million threads about that game being a ripoff.  Shin Megami Tensei is the original monster taming game, but you know Nintendo fans.  Everything Nintendo does has got to be first.  Nintendo fanboys should be more like Microsoft and Sony fanboys who don't argue about what games are copied and just play games to have fun.  Sony and Microsoft fanboys just argue which console has the best graphics :P using games like Uncharted or bad ports like Bayonetta as justification for their arguments.

Here's a video to the iOS game though.  It's called Little Masters.

JazzB1987 said:

So whats the difference of him being pro sony and you saying I am anti?  (What I just said makes no sense at all  same goes for your comment)

Who said I am anti sony?  I am totally ANTI BLIND fans.  (you should try not to jump to conclusions my friend)

Just to help you realize that I'm not really anti-sony.







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