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jonnybmk on 06 August 2012
SaviorX said:
pezus said:
SaviorX said:
pezus said:
spurgeonryan said:
pezus said:
jonnybmk said:
^^^I'd rather play those on my PS3 - not a handheld.

I think that's Sony's biggest problem right now because that's the majority opinion.

You'd rather play LBP Vita, CoD Declassified and AC: Liberation, which aren't available for your PS3...on your PS3?

Pretty sure he meant that he would rather play those types of games on the PS3. ...on the PS3.

So basically just every type of games? Platformer, FPS, action/adventure etc. Why does Mario get a free pass in situations like this?

Oh please Pez, don't be facetious.

Games like COD and Assassins Creed were tailor made for the scope provided by a home console.  Mario gets a free pass because the only thing similar throught titles like Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Galaxy, and New Super Mario Bros. 2 is the Mario Universe/Mushroom Kingdom likeness. Otherwise they all play much differently..........and sell a hell of a lot more.

That's not what I meant. Would people not want to play Mario on their console instead of a "pathetic" handheld? Why does Mario sell great on both handhelds and consoles? Because the games are great on both. Now, tell me, does LBP Vita look great or not? Looks amazing to me. AC and CoD sure are interesting and have the possibility of being great and they're not even the same games as the console "counterparts".

I'm biased; I wasn't a fan of the first LBP on the PS3 - I felt anxious and a wave of tedium while trying to play it. I question how well a handheld edition will push Vita.

There is still a stigma that the handheld editions are downports of the console iterations.

That's pretty much what I was getting at.

People don't want to play these derivative waterdowned ports of a console game.

CoD on Vita will be the same as on PS3. Sure, there'll be a different story but who plays CoD for the story?

Or LBP, it'll just be the exact same mechanics and gameplay as on the console.

But NSMB2 for example has the new coin rush mode unavailable anywhere else (brief example).

So all these Vita games I'll just end up getting their "older brother" for my PS3. 



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Argh_College on 06 August 2012

Isnt Gravity rush original ?



DieAppleDie on 06 August 2012

"Please tell me how a 3D functionality (which the minority even uses) is more innovative than a back and front touch screen. You can be in denial all you want, but there is nothing particularly innovative about the 3DS in itself."

show me some data or article related to that minor use of the 3D you are refering, i guess you are making an assumption on that to support your point...whatever it is...

back touch is barely used by any game.....front touch screen? come on, you are losing powers my friend
xD



NintendoPie on 06 August 2012

Oh! Lookie! We got to 14 pages on this HW/SW Thread!!



Farsala on 06 August 2012
NintendoPie said:
Oh! Lookie! We got to 14 pages on this HW/SW Thread!!


OMG you are right. But big 3DS week should do that.

 

Edit: the bad thing is noone posted the new Preorder thread.



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oniyide on 07 August 2012
DieAppleDie said:
off topic
i like very much MT open
i dont know why you guys dont like it, the multiplayer and minigames are great, the controls work perfectly and the mechanics, although didnt like them at first, make the gameplay more challenging for the mp
i would give it a solid 8

I personally didnt like it, because lt like a step back from Mario Power Tennis. The removal of the special moves alone rubbed me the wrong way, but i hate the touch controls as it makes the game feel way too easy and noob friendly, thats just me. Enjoy it, Ill wait till Camelot stops f***ing around and make a legit follow up, no portable nonsense with stuff removed and no old game with motion tacked on



jonnybmk on 07 August 2012
pezus said:
jonnybmk said:
SaviorX said:

I'm biased; I wasn't a fan of the first LBP on the PS3 - I felt anxious and a wave of tedium while trying to play it. I question how well a handheld edition will push Vita.

There is still a stigma that the handheld editions are downports of the console iterations.

That's pretty much what I was getting at.

People don't want to play these derivative waterdowned ports of a console game.

CoD on Vita will be the same as on PS3. Sure, there'll be a different story but who plays CoD for the story?

Or LBP, it'll just be the exact same mechanics and gameplay as on the console.

But NSMB2 for example has the new coin rush mode unavailable anywhere else (brief example).

So all these Vita games I'll just end up getting their "older brother" for my PS3. 

Jeez, that is great. I mean, it's not like LBP Vita has touch screen functionality now, which PS3 isn't capable of providing. But a new mode for Mario is something else...jesus

I can see that I have clearly upset you and I apologize for that.

In my defense, there is more than just coin rush mode, but the whole idea behind the game is a new idea for a Mario game - collect a million coins. There are new power-ups that help you achieve that ectera. (Nintendo also basically took the 3D out because it's a side-scroller and didn't feel the need to tack it on just because it could.)

The first LBP was totally innovative but tacking on touch controls to a console game being played on a handheld is kind of lame. (Similar to the tacked on touch controls for Uncharted - which I prefer on the big screen.)

And this is why the Vita fails. Derivative console games on a handheld is not what the people want - but I'll let the sales numbers to the talking, I guess. I'm not trying to convince you of anything - just my opinion. 



amp316 on 07 August 2012

My goodness!

The 3DS nearly 900% of what the Vita did? I think that it's time for a price cut , Sony.



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acdcste on 07 August 2012

I cant believe some people were actually predicting the vita would challenge the 3ds. Never going to happen and thats a shame, as competition always brings out the best in companies. I actually saw a vita last week from a guy that bought one at work and was very impressed with it. I played resistance and wipeout and enjoyed the expierience. I stand by my original thoughts and that is why would i want a handheld ps3 when i already have a ps3. I will stick to my 3ds for the time being.



jonnybmk on 07 August 2012
spurgeonryan said:

LTD, YTD hardware sales in the U.S. (NPD)

August 7th, 2012 Posted in 3DS, DS, News, Posted by Valay, Wii

The life-to-date and year-to-date information below is based on data collected from the NPD Group through June 2012. Additional hardware sales will be provided on Thursday via the July report.

LTD

DS – 51,786,649
360 – 34,384,373
PS3 – 21,357,121
Wii – 39,497,294
3DS – 5,137,741
Vita – 638,400

YTD

DS – 648,641

360 – 1,720,000
PS3 – 1,379,200
Wii – 812,800
3DS – 1,051,741

Vita – 638,400

Thanks to Eru for the tip.

 

Seems the Vita is competing with the DS in America right now. 3DS is being whooped by the big boys. That Wii60 gap seems pretty close!

Yikes. Cue the "Vita needs LBP, AC, CoD, etc etc etc" comments.

I'll keep repeating my comment "Vita needs a price drop".