I agree... Metroid / Samus needs to be immersive and stay that way and be the Nintendo equivalent of Master Chief. That is where the character shines.
Trying to make her a character (Metroid Other: M) or a sex reward (2d Metroid games) just spoils the immersion and cheapens the experience.
You can't see Samus 99% of the time in the prime games. I could never help but to feel the experience is cheapened by not having the game in third person.
Also, female characters who are more or less male characters with masculine traits, but with female parts - only seems like they were made to target teenaged male gamers who are insecure about playing female characters.
I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.
I was gonna write something, but my entire post depends on who initially wrote Samus' character and put her in the bikini. If it was Sakomoto then I can go on.
| Jumpin said: You can't see Samus 99% of the time in the prime games. I could never help but to feel the experience is cheapened by not having the game in third person. |
Not really. It made the moments that you did see her eyes (underwater explosions did a good job of lighting up her visor) that much more powerful.
Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.
| darkknightkryta said: I was gonna write something, but my entire post depends on who initially wrote Samus' character and put her in the bikini. If it was Sakomoto then I can go on. |
I remember reading about this, but i don't think it was Sakamoto. It was some random guy on the original Metroid team that suggested at the last minute that the end of the game should reveal her to be a woman, and the Bikini was likely due to hardware limitations.
Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.
Huh.
Believe it or not... I never knew that was the case in the NES game.
I always saw the full suited ending. Guess I took my time.
Knew she was a woman via the Password Justin Bailey.
At the time it struck me as crazy that I had just assumed she was a dude.
Well. Glad I never beat it fast then I suppose.
Now I know why my one friend bragged about being able to beat metroid fast though.
Mr Khan said:
I remember reading about this, but i don't think it was Sakamoto. It was some random guy on the original Metroid team that suggested at the last minute that the end of the game should reveal her to be a woman, and the Bikini was likely due to hardware limitations. |
Yes, Wikipedia says some guy suggested Samus be a girl, but I meant, who actually wrote her character.
And Rol, I didn't read your post yet, but welcome back.
darkknightkryta said:
Yes, Wikipedia says some guy suggested Samus be a girl, but I meant, who actually wrote her character. And Rol, I didn't read your post yet, but welcome back. |
Unless i'm forgetting something.
The first Metroid game had no dialogue. She was a silent protaganist like Mario.
Who knows why Mario saves the princess... right thing to do, wants to hook up with her.... cake.
| Kasz216 said: Unless i'm forgetting something. The first Metroid game had no dialogue. She was a silent protaganist like Mario. Who knows why Mario saves the princess... right thing to do, wants to hook up with her.... cake. |
Yes, but when she did start talking, who was writing? I mean NES and GB games were a lot more simple, so interpreting Samus for yourself is a lot easier. But at this point, Sakamoto was the one that wrote her the way he did, we can't really argue against it until he dies or stops writing, is what I was trying to get at. All assuming Sakamoto was the guy writing.
| Mr Khan said: Ho... Hmm... There is much to reflect on, here. I would say, in a pre-Other M world, that this whole affair is a bunch of sound and fury signifying nothing. Her sexualization was incidental, simply an expansion upon the reward that was offered up in the first game, which itself was a last-minute addition for shock value. It was a way of saying "you've reached a better tier of reward," without explicitly saying so. Indeed, in Metroid Prime 2 & 3, the bigger reward wasn't getting to see more of ZSS, but getting the sequel hook instead. Other M is a whole separate discussion, of course, one in which we both have made our opinions well known over the years, and where a lot of the apparent sexism can be attributed merely to lack of context (in why exactly she froze up over Ridley) and cultural blind-spots (over the unflinching obedience to Adam). The only indisputably egregious matter there is the heels in the Zero Suit Of course, your argument asks for more games in the vein of Metroid Prime, something i would very much want (best game EVAR), but i feel that a lot of this hardly qualifies as sexism, but something that sorta looks like sexism if you squint at it right. |
I'm not going to suggest that you are viewing this through the lens of attachment to the standing characterization and status quo of the character, but I think it might be possible that you're viewing the game in a softer light than you should.
Her sexualization was not incidental. It might be - in theory - if it were incidental throughout the course of the game, but it's not. Her sexualization serves to incentivize high-level play, which has turned Samus's body into a commodity against which we bargain our skills and our time.
This, in itself, is not necessarily problematic, but in the context of a character like Samus it is immensely egregious.
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