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ninetailschris said:

Khuutra I think that your saying if even doesn't act like generic girl she isn't an acting a like girl. What do you want her to do cry? Talk about screwing boys? Show scene of here cleaning her hair? I would pick her over a role-model over the "I CAN"T DEFEND MYSELF 90% of the game then I FEEL POWER NOW I CAN FIGHT~ The problem I guess is she actually doesn't take bullcrap and isn't here to act weak. She is here to kickbutt. 

I find it funny how those girls LOVED Larua when she was known just for sex symbol. Samus is actually respectable after all that happen to her. Yes you can be female and not act 2 dollar girl on corner.

You gave no defintion of how a girl is suppose to act. She acts cold because of here background which she took very well compared to average emo girl character in games. Samus is a tomboy like character and girls can relate to that (tomboys). In other M she actually has emotional break downs I believe from what I remember.

 

So you just claim oh it's fail isn't argument it's the lack of one. The only argument I see is see not acting like a female. Again...feamles don't act the same there are different types.

She is in a metal suit is a horrible reason to say OH NOT A FEMALE AT ALL. Again we have to look at the whole story ,every game, and break stereotypes because it's just going to be circular argument.

By the way it feels more impactful when you don't need it in your face she is a female it makes it feel real and not forced.  It means more when we don't have be told she is women every minute.  Lol imagine if the message was strong powerful woman and every cutscene she says I'M A WOMEN RESPECT ME[type of cutscene]! It just sounds bad and forced. She is an amazon not a feminist.

So did you not actually read the opening post, or



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I actually think that the Samus in Other M looked the most like Samus to me. She was pretty, but still looked like she was always ready to kick ass.

I really liked that game. Probably shouldnt' have sold it.



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mysticwolf said:

I actually think that the Samus in Other M looked the most like Samus to me. She was pretty, but still looked like she was always ready to kick ass.

I really liked that game. Probably shouldnt' have sold it.

Looks have almost literally nothing to do with the discussion about what makes her effective, though.



Khuutra said:
mysticwolf said:

I actually think that the Samus in Other M looked the most like Samus to me. She was pretty, but still looked like she was always ready to kick ass.

I really liked that game. Probably shouldnt' have sold it.

Looks have almost literally nothing to do with the discussion about what makes her effective, though.

perhaps not, but I liked Other M because it didn't try to hide who Samus was, and because although Samus is a lone bounty hunter, I enjoyed it better when she had other humans to interact with. In Prime and Prime 2 (haven't played Corruption yet), it kind of felt like Samus was the only human around. It might not really have anything to do with the discussion, but that's just my two cents on Other M.



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mysticwolf said:
Khuutra said:
mysticwolf said:

I actually think that the Samus in Other M looked the most like Samus to me. She was pretty, but still looked like she was always ready to kick ass.

I really liked that game. Probably shouldnt' have sold it.

Looks have almost literally nothing to do with the discussion about what makes her effective, though.

perhaps not, but I liked Other M because it didn't try to hide who Samus was, and because although Samus is a lone bounty hunter, I enjoyed it better when she had other humans to interact with. In Prime and Prime 2 (haven't played Corruption yet), it kind of felt like Samus was the only human around. It might not really have anything to do with the discussion, but that's just my two cents on Other M.

The sense of solitude is part of the point.



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Mr Khan said:

The sense of solitude is part of the point.

yeah, I guess the sense of solitude makes sense, since she was the only one that survived K-2L, so she's pretty used to isolation.



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What in the Hell is K-2L

What am I forgetting here



Khuutra said:
What in the Hell is K-2L

What am I forgetting here

it's the planet where Samus was born, and where her parents died when the Space Pirates along with Ridley attacked the planet and killed everyone on it. But Samus, at the time 3 years old, was the only survivor.

Someone didn't read the Metroid history insert that came with Prime Trilogy.



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Khuutra said:
What in the Hell is K-2L

What am I forgetting here

Samus' colony homeworld. It was a case of AllThereInTheManual (manga/instruction booklets) until the original Smash Bros stated her origins in-game for the first time.

Fuck me, am i writing in TVTropes notation? It really is time for bed...



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One of the worse things about Other M is how it tried to pretend that Adam was the primary influence on Samus as a person, instead of the Chozo, who had already been established as Samus's family after she was orphaned

One more layer to the argument that Adam was a self-insert for the director

Also one more reaosn that characterization of Samus was horrible