To clarify: your point is that some people wonder whether or not it's impossible to progress further in terms of social equalities and gender-based privileges, thereby calling into question, for them, the purpose of the feminist discourse?

I don't see how that reflects on the reality of the aim of the discourse; more, I do not think it relates to this topic.

Close, but not quite. It's not just whether is possible or not to get closer to end all gender-based discrimination (an utopian objective, but one that we should still strive for), but also whether the specific objectives that Feminism currently pursues are justified from a moral point of view, according to the principle of "equality". As Pineapple pointed out, there's a difference between equal opportunity and equal results, and when you try to force things to be equal because you believe a discriminatory act is taking place, you might end up either punishing men or privileging women just because of their gender. Not all differences in result are due to discrimination, and sexism can go both ways. And of course, there's also issues related to crime, freedom of speech, parenthood and so on.

Sure, the problem is not in the overall aim of the movement and its basic principles per se, but rather on the execution to get there. Not to mention those that have their own personal agenda and use Feminism as an excuse to get there.

Anyway... Hopefully I managed to make my points clear now... Keep in mind that English is not my native language, so I may make some mistakes from time to time.

And I realize that all this isn't directly related to this topic, but my intention was just to add to what was mentioned before me about Feminism by you and others. I didn't expect to write this much. And I won't post again.

What you are missing is... such choices aren't biological, but cultural.

Women do those things because more often because society expects them to do those things more often.

Long after equaity is achieved do to choices, unequality needs to be recognized because unequal choices will be made due to socialization.

I mean, when you think about how much kids get culturally programmed when they're younger.

Think about the kind of stuff you'd buy a 2 year old boy and a 2 year old girl... or the things you'd say about each or treat each.

You're right that it's debateable whether they're cultural or biological. There's no doubt that it's cultural as well, but I firmly believe that it's mostly biological. The cultural bit largely just came from the biological bit. If women didn't intensely want to care for their children, the children wouldn't grow up. Additionally, they have carried the children inside them for 9 months by the time they're born. The men haven't. That's a vital difference.

The cultural bit obviously affects this a bit, but I believe it's largely just an amplifier. If you try making a 2 year old boy play with dolls, it's going to be a limited success. If you give him a toy car, chances are he'll love it. Having said that, the way people behave towards the children also matters as well.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2005/jun/15/childrensservices.familyandrelationships

Studies often suggest it's primarily cultural and that child-rearing, over much larger spans of time, was a more equal chore for both men and women.

And the question of gender-based interests isn't really very valid; most of the time children are just responding to what has been reinforced as 'appropriate' for them when they're assigned specific gender roles before they've been able to form their own identities

But this shit is off topic and I will strangle both of you with my mind if we don't get back to talk about Samus's boobs

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2005/jun/15/childrensservices.familyandrelationships

Studies often suggest it's primarily cultural and that child-rearing, over much larger spans of time, was a more equal chore for both men and women.

And the question of gender-based interests isn't really very valid; most of the time children are just responding to what has been reinforced as 'appropriate' for them when they're assigned specific gender roles before they've been able to form their own identities

But this shit is off topic and I will strangle both of you with my mind if we don't get back to talk about Samus's boobs

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2005/jun/15/childrensservices.familyandrelationships

Studies often suggest it's primarily cultural and that child-rearing, over much larger spans of time, was a more equal chore for both men and women.

And the question of gender-based interests isn't really very valid; most of the time children are just responding to what has been reinforced as 'appropriate' for them when they're assigned specific gender roles before they've been able to form their own identities

But this shit is off topic and I will strangle both of you with my mind if we don't get back to talk about Samus's boobs

These boobs?

I was wondering why you posted this when i already had posted something by the same artist, only to find my image link is now broken.

Damn internet...