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seiya19 said:
Khuutra said:

To clarify: your point is that some people wonder whether or not it's impossible to progress further in terms of social equalities and gender-based privileges, thereby calling into question, for them, the purpose of the feminist discourse?

I don't see how that reflects on the reality of the aim of the discourse; more, I do not think it relates to this topic.

Close, but not quite. It's not just whether is possible or not to get closer to end all gender-based discrimination (an utopian objective, but one that we should still strive for), but also whether the specific objectives that Feminism currently pursues are justified from a moral point of view, according to the principle of "equality". As Pineapple pointed out, there's a difference between equal opportunity and equal results, and when you try to force things to be equal because you believe a discriminatory act is taking place, you might end up either punishing men or privileging women just because of their gender. Not all differences in result are due to discrimination, and sexism can go both ways. And of course, there's also issues related to crime, freedom of speech, parenthood and so on.

Sure, the problem is not in the overall aim of the movement and its basic principles per se, but rather on the execution to get there. Not to mention those that have their own personal agenda and use Feminism as an excuse to get there.

Anyway... Hopefully I managed to make my points clear now... Keep in mind that English is not my native language, so I may make some mistakes from time to time.

And I realize that all this isn't directly related to this topic, but my intention was just to add to what was mentioned before me about Feminism by you and others. I didn't expect to write this much. And I won't post again.

That was very clear, thank you.

Feel free to participate in the topic if you like; there's nothing keeping you from posting if you want to (unless you have no opinion on the archetype of the faceless hero, I guess)